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Aerys said:

Just to clarify things : Sony america bought a huge and expensive headquarter, that's the reason why they sold the other little one : http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/09/11/playstation-opens-giant-headquarters-in-silicon-valley-jack-tretton-this-was-the-jewel-we-had-our-eye-on-for-about-6-years/

They also buy a new big headquarter for Santa Monica : http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/01/29/santa-monica-studio-update-new-site-new-hq/


Dont see only what you want to see...

Great, that's exactly what I wanted. Finally someone just had the balls to bring up the damn links. It is odd that almost no websites reported on these purchases, but oh well, great news then. 



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

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tiffac said:
This thread went from the abysmal future of Sony to blind furious hate from haters and supporters alike Lol!

Sadly, anyone who thinks that only one side is embarrassing themselves needs to take off their goggles too because there is no side that you can choose from here that is without ulterior motives. XD

What motive? Where did I hate on sony? Please point it out for me, my only motive in this thread was to try and have a discussion on sony's financials. I was simply stating they were indeed poor results (no one can really argue that). Just to be clear, I love Sony as a company, and as I said earlier, my 3 tvs are sony, my cellphone is an Xperia and I have a psvita. I have no feelings against sony, I apologise if saying negative stuff on a company means that I have something against them.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

Your comments are irrational, and i actually have a minor in economics and i can tell you right now, that having any degree in economics has nothing to do with being able to make a rational post about the serious problems facing sony, so please take some of your own advice.



Good news are always less interesting than bad news.( even if the "bad" news is related to the good news, like the fact sony situation will get much better once they'll get rid of PC business and to do that, they need to go through a revision so bigger loss this year)



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

benji232 said:
tiffac said:
This thread went from the abysmal future of Sony to blind furious hate from haters and supporters alike Lol!

Sadly, anyone who thinks that only one side is embarrassing themselves needs to take off their goggles too because there is no side that you can choose from here that is without ulterior motives. XD

What motive? Where did I hate on sony? Please point it out for me, my only motive in this thread was to try and have a sain discussion on sony's financials. I was simply stating they were indeed poor results (no one can really argue that). Just to be clear, I love Sony as a company, and as I said earlier, my 3 tvs are sony, my cellphone is an Xperia and I have a psvita. I have no feelings against sony, I apologise if saying negative stuff on a company means that I have something against them.

Dude why are you so guilty? If this wasn't you, then there wouldn't be any need to be defensive. It's like admitting to a crime you never did.

Sometimes the best reply is silence aka ignore it.



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tiffac said:
benji232 said:
tiffac said:
This thread went from the abysmal future of Sony to blind furious hate from haters and supporters alike Lol!

Sadly, anyone who thinks that only one side is embarrassing themselves needs to take off their goggles too because there is no side that you can choose from here that is without ulterior motives. XD

What motive? Where did I hate on sony? Please point it out for me, my only motive in this thread was to try and have a sain discussion on sony's financials. I was simply stating they were indeed poor results (no one can really argue that). Just to be clear, I love Sony as a company, and as I said earlier, my 3 tvs are sony, my cellphone is an Xperia and I have a psvita. I have no feelings against sony, I apologise if saying negative stuff on a company means that I have something against them.

Dude why are you so guilty? If this wasn't you, then there wouldn't be any need to be defensive. It's like admitting to a crime you never did.

Sometimes the best reply is silence aka ignore it.

Nah, I don't feel guilty at all, I was just pointing that out in case some people thought I had some kind of hatred feelings against Sony. And since I've basically been part of an argument that occupies the last 3-4pages of this thread, I thought you were mainly aiming me and mugen with that post. I'll just shut up now :D lol.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

tiffac said:
benji232 said:
tiffac said:
This thread went from the abysmal future of Sony to blind furious hate from haters and supporters alike Lol!

Sadly, anyone who thinks that only one side is embarrassing themselves needs to take off their goggles too because there is no side that you can choose from here that is without ulterior motives. XD

What motive? Where did I hate on sony? Please point it out for me, my only motive in this thread was to try and have a sain discussion on sony's financials. I was simply stating they were indeed poor results (no one can really argue that). Just to be clear, I love Sony as a company, and as I said earlier, my 3 tvs are sony, my cellphone is an Xperia and I have a psvita. I have no feelings against sony, I apologise if saying negative stuff on a company means that I have something against them.

Dude why are you so guilty? If this wasn't you, then there wouldn't be any need to be defensive. It's like admitting to a crime you never did.

Sometimes the best reply is silence aka ignore it.

You, I and pretty much the majority of the gaming community have been in this 'Fan' business with Sony, MS, Nint for years now. You should know how 'silence' is often impossible. Even if it is indeed the best response. .



Yay!!!

Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
tiffac said:
benji232 said:
tiffac said:
This thread went from the abysmal future of Sony to blind furious hate from haters and supporters alike Lol!

Sadly, anyone who thinks that only one side is embarrassing themselves needs to take off their goggles too because there is no side that you can choose from here that is without ulterior motives. XD

What motive? Where did I hate on sony? Please point it out for me, my only motive in this thread was to try and have a sain discussion on sony's financials. I was simply stating they were indeed poor results (no one can really argue that). Just to be clear, I love Sony as a company, and as I said earlier, my 3 tvs are sony, my cellphone is an Xperia and I have a psvita. I have no feelings against sony, I apologise if saying negative stuff on a company means that I have something against them.

Dude why are you so guilty? If this wasn't you, then there wouldn't be any need to be defensive. It's like admitting to a crime you never did.

Sometimes the best reply is silence aka ignore it.

You, I and pretty much the majority of the gaming community have been in this 'Fan' business with Sony, MS, Nint for years now. You should know how 'silence' is often impossible. Even if it is indeed the best response. .

Actually, I just don't want to receive pitchforks from Sony fans which is why I was clearing things up a bit.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

scat398 said:
Some of the responses in this thread are actually insane and quite frankly embarrassing for sony fans on this site.
Everyone on this site is smart enough to understand that Sony is and has been in real trouble for a long time. It doesn't mean you can't like their product anymore, but get over this whole defensive, name calling, hate speech. Sony is working hard to save the viable parts of the company but the reality is that may not be enough.

As stated numerous times before samsung has been aggressively going after sony shares and their current losses will only embolden them further.

So samsung split the market even  more than it already is? if you have not noticed Sony is investing more into playstation not taking away investment's!

"but the reality is that may not be enough. "

Yes that may not be enough, but on the same token there has been over and over and over this very same outlook being said about Sony's issue all for the past 3 years, sony better do something drastic, Sony market share was taken by Microsoft, Sony has lost all that money on the PS3 Sony's market share has bottom out. for every person saying that every thing is all fine and dandy, there is just as many people claimed that sONY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LEAVE THE GAME INDUSTRY IF THEY WANT TO SURVIVE, OR SONY WILL BE BOUGHT OUT!

the point is right now SCE LLC is not for public buy in there is not public IPO on "playstation"

Look the very fact that SCE LLC is private held, means there is no public buy in. so even if there is further displacement of share's the fact that Sony will further down size the over all company, thus they will swallow the poison Pill to avoid a hostile take over anyway!

History is on the side of japan companies the size of Sony which employ's over 147,000+ people means that in the past 40 years straight, no non owned japanese ran hedge fund or investment firm has been able to do a Hostile Take over of a japanese company the size of Sony. it has not happened in 40 straight years! this is not like Wall Street.

The fact that sony closed down the E reader part of the company, and  now sold off PC, again now split off TV section. This is the making's of getting rid of the toxic asset's, just because they go smaller does not mean; that they will be that much easier of a target for a Hostile Take over. the reality is such ,even with a hedge fund that owns 7% of Sony and the board of Directors has told the hedge fund No! it was not just some say yes and other's say maybe on the vote was

 The board decision was unanimous!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-06/sony-rejects-loeb-push-to-sell-for-entertainment-ipo.html

again:

“In the last 15-20 years that they’ve owned those businesses, they’ve yet to show any meaningful synergy with electronics,” said Daniel Ernst, an analyst at Hudson Square Research in New York, who has a buy rating on the shares. “The beauty of the entertainment spin plan was that it wouldn’t stop them from keeping trying.”

The fact that this is not like how the japanese see it! its clear they do not see it that way.

 Again The board decision was unanimous! to vote No!

Hell the Hedge fund , ran by Dan lobe he does not even have a seat on the board. once again they said No!

Its pretty simple, and many such non japanese investors have found out over the years, that trying to make changes into the japanese market like they do in the west . is not only a up hill climb, but its d@mn near frustrating to even get an outcome that benefits your investment past just holding stock!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

benji232 said:
tiffac said:
benji232 said:
tiffac said:
This thread went from the abysmal future of Sony to blind furious hate from haters and supporters alike Lol!

Sadly, anyone who thinks that only one side is embarrassing themselves needs to take off their goggles too because there is no side that you can choose from here that is without ulterior motives. XD

What motive? Where did I hate on sony? Please point it out for me, my only motive in this thread was to try and have a sain discussion on sony's financials. I was simply stating they were indeed poor results (no one can really argue that). Just to be clear, I love Sony as a company, and as I said earlier, my 3 tvs are sony, my cellphone is an Xperia and I have a psvita. I have no feelings against sony, I apologise if saying negative stuff on a company means that I have something against them.

Dude why are you so guilty? If this wasn't you, then there wouldn't be any need to be defensive. It's like admitting to a crime you never did.

Sometimes the best reply is silence aka ignore it.

Nah, I don't feel guilty at all, I was just pointing that out in case some people thought I had some kind of hatred feelings against Sony. And since I've basically been part of an argument that occupies the last 3-4pages of this thread, I thought you were mainly aiming me and mugen with that post. I'll just shut up now :D lol.

No biggie, I was actually just surprised that you replied to my comment. I was like going "why?" Lol

yeah take break man, forum stress ain't good for no one. :)

@Wh1p

Yeah, that's true but heck! Maybe we just need a reminder from time to time :)