Dude, not matter how many times you say it to yourself, a Mario game like Mario 64 or Galaxy wouln't have changed the Wii U fate. You are just mad you didn't get what you wanted, is as simple as that.

I'm aware of that. At least, I'll have something I'll truly like. Same with Metroid and Zelda. I won't be defending it because it sells well, but because I liked it.

Mario 3D World would've outsold either Galaxy game on the original Wii.

Multiplayer + more classic styled Mario levels would've sold a gigaton on the Wii.

The Wii U is just a dud of a console, and Nintendo is reaping their results for an incredibly poorly thought out hardware strategy now by having a game like Mario 3D World suffer.

They've oversaturated the Mario brand recently too, way too many games.

The big thing that sucks is I can see the next 3D Mario being moved to the 3DS now instead of Wii U. Why sell 4-5 million copies of a Mario game when on the 3DS they could probably double that easily?

You guys Talk like history has already been written. Nintendo deliveredfor 30 years, why would that change now? Just because some bad sales and few layman opinions?

Christmas illuminations have been up since early nov, christmas products on sale since the second haloween was over, hell 'driving home for christmas' was on the radio followed by slades chrisymas song in late oct.

Japan hss become a hell of a lot more westernized in the past decade.

Ive lived here basically my whole life, 1980s japan is nothing like 2013 japan, sadly the rest of the world still sees japan as it was back then.

absolutely. 4 games (2 3d and 2 2d) for two systems, with one year apart the two of each console. that's totally oversaturating.

dude, EA, ACTIVISION and UBISOFT releasing AC, call of retrocess, skylanders and EA sports every year, THAT is oversaturating.

the only nintendo console since nes that had 2 marios of the same style was the wii, with galaxy and galaxy 2. end even then, they were 3 years apart.

Did they deliver with the virtualboy, or hit 30m with the gamecube? Just saying.

These are staple third party publishers, delivering cross platform franchises, feel free to find a first party microsoft or sony game milked as hard as mario.

YOu live my dream man.

By the way in hiragana, when is the su syllable silent? only in desu and in masu or always?

Pavolink said: Platform N. America Europe Japan Global 197,597 39,253 28,338 274,179   One of the biggest weeks of the year, near christmas, and well, not even 300k hw sales for Wii U. 3D Flop literally flopped in Japan with a lame 100k FW (lowest 3D Mario debut ever) and in USA didn't set the charts on fire. We know that it is good, reviews, legs and blah blah. The point is, that this "3D" Mario is not generating hype and it's not moving consoles, not even in the holidays. While 3DLand+MK+Price cut helped the 3DS, SM3DWorld is even outsold by Knack in the UK. Now what? Reality is, that Wii U will sell around GC numbers (22M) so hardware sales won't make Nintendo proud, but software can, and to do that they need games to be hyped for and gamers are willing to buy. Maybe a proper 3D Mario where we can collect stars ala 64/Sunshine/Galaxy's  can generate more hype than a mixture of 3D/2D Multiplayer Mario.   Considering Koizumi hinted another game and a soon announcement, can we expect a real 64/Sunshine/Galaxy succesor? Are we allowed to dream with it? And when DK proves it's not a system seller, can we have a new Metroid for Retro? Can we ask for it, even when we already know it will flop? Please? Is it bad if, as a Nintendo fan, I ask for games I'm willing to buy?

Wiiu was selling 20,000 week and now 190,000. People don't understand that consoles don't just go from 20,000 to 300,000. You need momentum it needs to sell and increase over time. Maybe you live in a fantasy world where everything goes from bad to amazing in one week but anyone in business knows this is not possible. Nintendo if they keep around 100,000 week then they done a good job so far because it's progess. 

"Is it bad if, as a Nintendo fan, I ask for games I'm willing to buy?"

i put you in the f-zero club. Where they don't realize there opinions don't reflect actual sales and good business decisions.