Forums - Sales Discussion - 8th gen sales by Jan 1 2015

Zero999 said:

by the way "The Wii had around 19.8 Million around this point in time. I'd say 14 Million at most. (This is a comparison at the start of 2008, so the numbers that are used here don't reflect the second year of the Wii. Although my point still stands.)"

No, your point wasn't even close from getting up, let alone stand. you used numbers for when wii was 1 year old vs wii u 2 years old. and predicting a maximun of 14M for a console that will already be at least 9M 1 year before that time point is just nonsense.

My point still stands. I find it funny, though, that you sifted your way through this thread and found my number yet other people are predicting something with Millions lower than mine. Interesting.

Also, do you agree with the OP's Wii U prediction? If so, why?



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PS4 - 5mil
X1 - 9mil
Wii U - 13mil



sniper989 said:
PS4 - 5mil
X1 - 9mil
Wii U - 13mil


This is the first post where somebody says the Xbox One will outsell the PS4 0.o



MDMAlliance said:


I was just saying that if they really believe it will be around 12m, they are expecting the Wii U to not have any significant games to boost sales past its current state.  
So that would mean they wont think Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart 8, 3D Mario, X, possibly Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, and more games that are bound to come before Jan 1 2015 will do the trick (plus a price cut).  
The thing is that the Gamecube and Wii U were in different situations, albeit they seem to struggle the same.  
Also, looking at gamecubes World Wide sales doesn't tell the entire story, look at it by region.  Gamecube DID sell in North America.  It did not, however, in Europe and Japan.  From what it looks like, Wii U is doing roughly the same in each region.  


It's debatable if the GC North American sales would be considered relevant nowadays though. But I think you are right.



 

 

 

 

 

PS4 - 7m
Wii U - 13m
X1 - 8m
3DS - 59m
Vita - 11m

 

(next gen adoption will be abnormally slow due to way too much cross gen titles, imo)



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NintendoPie said:
Zero999 said:

by the way "The Wii had around 19.8 Million around this point in time. I'd say 14 Million at most. (This is a comparison at the start of 2008, so the numbers that are used here don't reflect the second year of the Wii. Although my point still stands.)"

No, your point wasn't even close from getting up, let alone stand. you used numbers for when wii was 1 year old vs wii u 2 years old. and predicting a maximun of 14M for a console that will already be at least 9M 1 year before that time point is just nonsense.

My point still stands. I find it funny, though, that you sifted your way through this thread and found my number yet other people are predicting something with Millions lower than mine. Interesting.

Also, do you agree with the OP's Wii U prediction? If so, why?

funny that you think I should waste my time with every stupid predicition on this topic. yours was the first i read so i quoted you. and as I said, your point NEVER standed since you are saying wii u can't reach in 2 years what the wii reached in 1.

and I don't agree with the OP's wii u numbers, they're too low. total numbers for 2013 should be 6 or 7 million, totalizing 9 or 10M. 2014 will be A LOT better than 2013 for wii u, probably doubling 2013 so i predict 22M or over for wii u by january 2015.



Seeing as 360 did 8.0 mil, PS3 did 9.2 mil and the Wii did 19.5 mil in that time frame, my predictions are as follows:

X1 = 7.0 mil
PS4 = 10.2 mil
WiiU = 9.5 mil

My reasoning? With all of the negative press, X1 will lose 1.0 mil to PS4. I know that pre-orders in the US for software seem to indicate a 2:1 split (Call of Duty: Ghosts, which would generally be favored on Xbox, is currently tracking at 31.8k for PS4 and 17.5k for X1), but I think this will change as people forget about E3 and MS gears up its marketing machine.

I also think the WiiU will do half the amount the Wii did.

3DS = 55 mil
Vita = 10 mil

If Sony pushes the Vita as a second screen for the PS4, sales may improve, but right now I am assuming they will not.

I don't think the 3DS will be as high as people think, because more people will be playing on phones / iPods than before.



DM235 said:
Seeing as 360 did 8.0 mil, PS3 did 9.2 mil and the Wii did 19.5 mil in that time frame, my predictions are as follows:

X1 = 7.0 mil
PS4 = 10.2 mil
WiiU = 9.5 mil

My reasoning? With all of the negative press, X1 will lose 1.0 mil to PS4. I know that pre-orders in the US for software seem to indicate a 2:1 split (Call of Duty: Ghosts, which would generally be favored on Xbox, is currently tracking at 31.8k for PS4 and 17.5k for X1), but I think this will change as people forget about E3 and MS gears up its marketing machine.

I also think the WiiU will do half the amount the Wii did.

3DS = 55 mil
Vita = 10 mil

If Sony pushes the Vita as a second screen for the PS4, sales may improve, but right now I am assuming they will not.

I don't think the 3DS will be as high as people think, because more people will be playing on phones / iPods than before.

I don't think in the next two years that the market for smart phones will grow so much it will make the 3DS only sell 22-23m in 17 months.  Especially considering the 3DS has only been out for a little over 2 years, a good portion of which were slow times for the 3DS.



DM235 said:
Seeing as 360 did 8.0 mil, PS3 did 9.2 mil and the Wii did 19.5 mil in that time frame, my predictions are as follows:

X1 = 7.0 mil
PS4 = 10.2 mil
WiiU = 9.5 mil

My reasoning? With all of the negative press, X1 will lose 1.0 mil to PS4. I know that pre-orders in the US for software seem to indicate a 2:1 split (Call of Duty: Ghosts, which would generally be favored on Xbox, is currently tracking at 31.8k for PS4 and 17.5k for X1), but I think this will change as people forget about E3 and MS gears up its marketing machine.

I also think the WiiU will do half the amount the Wii did.

3DS = 55 mil
Vita = 10 mil

If Sony pushes the Vita as a second screen for the PS4, sales may improve, but right now I am assuming they will not.

I don't think the 3DS will be as high as people think, because more people will be playing on phones / iPods than before.

you realize the topic refers to total sales by the END of 2014, right? it's not about first year sales for each console. you're also using 1 year numbers for wii's comparison instead of 2. half the wii would still mean 20M+ for wii u, wich is much probable.



Zero999 said:
NintendoPie said:
Zero999 said:

by the way "The Wii had around 19.8 Million around this point in time. I'd say 14 Million at most. (This is a comparison at the start of 2008, so the numbers that are used here don't reflect the second year of the Wii. Although my point still stands.)"

No, your point wasn't even close from getting up, let alone stand. you used numbers for when wii was 1 year old vs wii u 2 years old. and predicting a maximun of 14M for a console that will already be at least 9M 1 year before that time point is just nonsense.

My point still stands. I find it funny, though, that you sifted your way through this thread and found my number yet other people are predicting something with Millions lower than mine. Interesting.

Also, do you agree with the OP's Wii U prediction? If so, why?

funny that you think I should waste my time with every stupid predicition on this topic. yours was the first i read so i quoted you. and as I said, your point NEVER standed since you are saying wii u can't reach in 2 years what the wii reached in 1.

and I don't agree with the OP's wii u numbers, they're too low. total numbers for 2013 should be 6 or 7 million, totalizing 9 or 10M. 2014 will be A LOT better than 2013 for wii u, probably doubling 2013 so i predict 22M or over for wii u by january 2015.

What makes his post anymore stupid then yours? This thread is all about predictions that anyone can make. Your prediction is the one that is out of the norm overall based on other numbers in this thread.