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Is this still a valid option these days?

Do they know anything about the law, are they experts on anything? Do you trust their judgement?

 

OJ Simpson trial. Casey Anthony Trial. Etc.

 

I think that they are just as bad as the rest of our legal system.



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It is an awful system for sure. They often judge based on emotion rather than reason, turning a trial into a drama fest rather than a search for truth.



I wouldn't trust average Joe as a jury member more than I would trust him with a gun.



Juries really don't factor in that much to the system. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/opinion/sunday/go-to-trial-crash-the-justice-system.html?_r=0 Roughly 90% of all criminal cases that would mandate a jury trial just don't go there at all.

That said, Juries do, often, seem to understand the concept of "reasonable doubt" and do their job as described.

The cases of Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson are actually triumphs of the system. The jurors in Casey Anthony have stated that they were pretty sure the mother killed her baby, but that they could not go beyond a reasonable doubt, so she had to walk.



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The only problem I've ever had with juries is in cases where there are two (or more) expert witnesses giving contradictory testimony, and the jury has to decide which one is telling the truth. There was one true crime story I was watching, and one of the pieces of forensic evidence had to do with the timing of death, and they had two experts get on the stand and give completely contradictory interpretations of what happened (based on the type of insects that were found on the body). When I was watching it, I was thinking, how could average citizens, with little background knowledge on the subject, adequately assess the two arguments.



The system is really messed up, but id still want a jury or a judge.



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Mr Khan said:
Juries really don't factor in that much to the system. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/opinion/sunday/go-to-trial-crash-the-justice-system.html?_r=0 Roughly 90% of all criminal cases that would mandate a jury trial just don't go there at all.

That said, Juries do, often, seem to understand the concept of "reasonable doubt" and do their job as described.

The cases of Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson are actually triumphs of the system. The jurors in Casey Anthony have stated that they were pretty sure the mother killed her baby, but that they could not go beyond a reasonable doubt, so she had to walk.


You pervert.  You took this thread's pants off, made it stand here naked in front of everyone, and then nailed it.



Afaik I wouldn't want random people judging in court. Way too important to let some bigot be the judge of anything.
Give me a neutral judge, one who has taken to heart to be neutral, and judge without prejudice.

But, this answer might point out that i know jack shit about your justice system.



Mr Khan said:
Juries really don't factor in that much to the system. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/opinion/sunday/go-to-trial-crash-the-justice-system.html?_r=0 Roughly 90% of all criminal cases that would mandate a jury trial just don't go there at all.

That said, Juries do, often, seem to understand the concept of "reasonable doubt" and do their job as described.

The cases of Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson are actually triumphs of the system. The jurors in Casey Anthony have stated that they were pretty sure the mother killed her baby, but that they could not go beyond a reasonable doubt, so she had to walk.

To me, that is a fail. Where was the justice? I cannot talk about it, but a family member just was found guilty on all charges with something that he was not even part of. The government had all of their fancy lawyers though and got the jury to go in their favor. But a funny thing happened. On the first day, the judge asked if any of the lawyers had anything to say while the jury was away on recess, the government lawyers jumped in and said they wanted anything dealing with explaining how certain things work stricken from the record. But they did not want the Jury to know that they wanted it taken off the record and not used. The Jury never knew of this, or I am sure they would have not found him guilty. Bunch of crap. That is why I made the thread, but I also thought Casey Anthony was a crime as well.



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Add Zimmerman trial to my list.



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Zimmerman is a really bad example for this proposition bc he had influence over the cops bc they were worried that zimmerman might be a coworker someday, and he knew the legal system pretty well, so he can effectively bullshit his way through his trial.