Quantcast
Is there a danger that people are giving the PS4 too much of a free pass?

Forums - Gaming Discussion - Is there a danger that people are giving the PS4 too much of a free pass?

The gaming media is giving Sony the free pass. The general media has been evenly favorable with both consoles.



Around the Network
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ps4 can't handle used games like it sounds like that MS will handle it. I suggest you just cross that outta the OP right now. Ps4 will not require online so how do you expect people without online to register their game to their account?


PS4 won't handle used games the same way as the One but EA seem to be supporting the ps4, which leads me to believe that they have something not necessarily bad but "satisfying" to EA. Since we don't know what it is, we can't assuming it's consumer friendly.

Additionally, I think Sony's true stance on the thing will be known once we find out what they want their first party to do.


I'm not saying that won't happen, as I'm pretty positive there will be some kind of policy to deal with the second hand games issue (less anti-consumer than with MS) but it's also far-fetched to say that Sony will have almost the same kind of DRM as MS because of EA support. 

Maybe Nintendo said no to that and that's the reason why EA ditched its support, but EA's revenue is substantially bigger on Playstation platforms than Nintendo's, and I mean SUBSTANTIALLY. So it's possible that even if Sony would say no, EA would still have to support them.

Also note that before the xbone reveal, EA was definately closer in relationships with Sony than MS - Battlefield earlier DLCs, Playstation specific FIFA and NFS commercials. And now after MS adopted all this DRM, always online, etc. etc. stuff EA is their biggest partner.



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

Unlike Nintendo, Sony largely relies of Third Parties. Nintendo can manage to live on their own whereas Sony can't.



The truth is that Wii U is not viable for them right now. That does NOT translate as they will no longer support them. And they have supported the system. And stopped because of sales. Completely different than saying EA wouldn't support the Ps4 if it didn't block used games



You are right - there is a lot we still dont know including sony's policy on used games. But going from what they have done with the ps3, any features they have with the ps4 will not be forced or compulsory i.e. if the camera/eye is kinect-like I am sure they will give the option of turning it off and wont force it into most games (or at least make it optional similar to the move functionality). When you look at these things, you go on past behaviour and what sony have done in the past means I am not too worried about what features they will have in the ps4.



Around the Network
Kantor said:
I agree with you to an extent. We have no evidence at all that the PS4 won't have used game blocking and always-on cameras and such.

What we do know is that their conference focused on games, that they are clearly trying to target exactly the groups of people who are opposed to those sorts of features, and as such that it would be extremely foolish to include them.

That's not to say that they won't include them, only that people don't want to consider that they will.


In a nut shell, this.

We're getting green flags from SONY, red flags from MS. When SONY gives a reason for people to moan and complain, you'll see some moaning and complaining. Everyone's focused on what we know to be happening so far, not what might happen. 



4 ≈ One

Max King of the Wild said:
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ps4 can't handle used games like it sounds like that MS will handle it. I suggest you just cross that outta the OP right now. Ps4 will not require online so how do you expect people without online to register their game to their account?


PS4 won't handle used games the same way as the One but EA seem to be supporting the ps4, which leads me to believe that they have something not necessarily bad but "satisfying" to EA. Since we don't know what it is, we can't assuming it's consumer friendly.

Additionally, I think Sony's true stance on the thing will be known once we find out what they want their first party to do.

Because EA, a company that supports every manufacturer, is supporting the ps4 we should assume the ps4 will stop used games? Thats some silly thought process.

Uhhh....

Edit: ah, i see. You're still laboring under the "rational company" concept.

Retracted.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Its simply the fact that whatever Sony has shown so far has been mostly positive and people are focusing on that. On the other hand MS's conference and post show contained mostly negative stuff.

It is possible that Sony has been stacking all the negative stuff for later but there's no reason for people to think negatively of a system if nothing bad has been shown. If Sony do unveil some bad stuff, they will get backlash for it. I think they know this as well seeing the craziness that ensued after MS's conference.



 

UltimateUnknown said:
Its simply the fact that whatever Sony has shown so far has been mostly positive and people are focusing on that. On the other hand MS's conference and post show contained mostly negative stuff.

It is possible that Sony has been stacking all the negative stuff for later but there's no reason for people to think negatively of a system if nothing bad has been shown. If Sony do unveil some bad stuff, they will get backlash for it. I think they know this as well seeing the craziness that ensued after MS's conference.

That right there is my concern

But I suppose this is quite true



PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.


Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

Kyuu said:
Unlike Nintendo, Sony largely relies of Third Parties. Nintendo can manage to live on their own whereas Sony can't.

^ This. Sony needs to be careful on how they treat 3rd parties. If they lose their support the Sony 1st party games won't be enough to push hardware. We know EA wants this fee for used games, we still need to see if other 3rd parties will follow suit. If the majority of big third party publishers want this pay-walls, Sony has no other option but to meet their demands. 



Nintendo and PC gamer