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KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Someoneone forgot the PS3 launched 6 months AFTER it did in the U.S.
Therefore this whole argument is irrelevant the Wii U is doing worse than the PS3 lol.

Nope, WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you include the european launch for PS3. WiiU sells less on a weekly base now, even if you don't include europe for PS3. WiiU had 2 million 5 weeks after launch. PS3 had 687K. In the 5 weeks after european launch it made 1.1 million WORLDWIDE (not only EU). Together that makes less than 1.8 million. So WiiU launched better, even including european launch. Looking at thefirst years weekly sales WiiU is trending below PS3 even before european launch. So looking at the real numbers help avoids such wrong statements. (The conclusion that WiiU is doing worse than PS3 is true because of the second part, not because of the later european launch.)

Here is a thread with numbers: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=152379

The PS3 sold 1.1 mil in 4months? What where are you getting your numbers? This is for 4MONTHS. We are going off of 4 months in Europe not 5 weeks.

Nope, the PS3 sold 1.1 million in the 5 weeks following the european launch. I add that to the first 5 weeks of PS3 and that number is lower than WiiUs first 5 weeks. I don't compare 4 months with 5 weeks, that's no comparison.

This whole debate is how much the Wii U sold in 4 MONTHS. Not 5 weeks not 2 day not 3 4 MONTHS.

4 Months in Europe tell me how much the PS3 Sold especially when it was DOUBLE the price of the Wii U.

Go ahead im waiting then add it with the rest of the PS3 number from when it launched 4 months into the U.S,Japan,AU etc...

this whole debate is about the launch, as this thread is titled 'Wii U INITIAL Sales Better Than PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360?'. I bolded the part you don't read. And I said again and again, that the WiiU launched better as PS3 even including the european launch and is now selling less. And you say four month, we don't have 4 months of WiiU-sales data so dar, so we can't compare that. But we have a bit more than 3 months now. After 15 weeks the WiiU sold 2.6 million and the PS3 sold 1.8 million. I'm pretty sure if we follow on the aligned cumulated sales for PS3 will be better at some point, as the weekly sales in the first year (Jan-Dec) are worse than the one of the PS3. But until now the good initial sales have the WiiU above PS3. Wait a little more, than your PS3 will be above. But I doubt we can talk about initial sales anymore.



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Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Someoneone forgot the PS3 launched 6 months AFTER it did in the U.S.
Therefore this whole argument is irrelevant the Wii U is doing worse than the PS3 lol.

Nope, WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you include the european launch for PS3. WiiU sells less on a weekly base now, even if you don't include europe for PS3. WiiU had 2 million 5 weeks after launch. PS3 had 687K. In the 5 weeks after european launch it made 1.1 million WORLDWIDE (not only EU). Together that makes less than 1.8 million. So WiiU launched better, even including european launch. Looking at thefirst years weekly sales WiiU is trending below PS3 even before european launch. So looking at the real numbers help avoids such wrong statements. (The conclusion that WiiU is doing worse than PS3 is true because of the second part, not because of the later european launch.)

Here is a thread with numbers: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=152379

The PS3 sold 1.1 mil in 4months? What where are you getting your numbers? This is for 4MONTHS. We are going off of 4 months in Europe not 5 weeks.

Nope, the PS3 sold 1.1 million in the 5 weeks following the european launch. I add that to the first 5 weeks of PS3 and that number is lower than WiiUs first 5 weeks. I don't compare 4 months with 5 weeks, that's no comparison.

ahem, Sony shipped 3.5mil Ps3's in 2 quarters while JUST launching in Europe. Nintendo shiped 3mil in 1 quarter and judging from sales in NA and Japan they will ship around 500k in quarter 2. Soooo.... yeah

Can't all you guys read? What interest me the shipments for a full quarter, if I compare 5 weeks? 5 weeks PS3 after european launch + 5 weeks PS3 after launch < 5 weeks WiiU after launch.
And that doesn't mean WiiU sells bad NOW, it only means it had a better launch than PS3. PS3 sold better on a weekly base in the first year than WiiU does now. And that even without europe.



But that doesn't even make sense to compare.

You're right, it makes not much sense to compare 10 weeks of sales for PS3 with 5 weeks of sale of WiiU. But the claim I answered was that including european launch the PS3 would be on top, and no, it isn't.



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Handy little chart for people to clarify how the WiiU is doing in comparison to last gen consoles first weekson the market! You can thank me later!



 

 

 

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Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Someoneone forgot the PS3 launched 6 months AFTER it did in the U.S.
Therefore this whole argument is irrelevant the Wii U is doing worse than the PS3 lol.

Nope, WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you include the european launch for PS3. WiiU sells less on a weekly base now, even if you don't include europe for PS3. WiiU had 2 million 5 weeks after launch. PS3 had 687K. In the 5 weeks after european launch it made 1.1 million WORLDWIDE (not only EU). Together that makes less than 1.8 million. So WiiU launched better, even including european launch. Looking at thefirst years weekly sales WiiU is trending below PS3 even before european launch. So looking at the real numbers help avoids such wrong statements. (The conclusion that WiiU is doing worse than PS3 is true because of the second part, not because of the later european launch.)

Here is a thread with numbers: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=152379

The PS3 sold 1.1 mil in 4months? What where are you getting your numbers? This is for 4MONTHS. We are going off of 4 months in Europe not 5 weeks.

Nope, the PS3 sold 1.1 million in the 5 weeks following the european launch. I add that to the first 5 weeks of PS3 and that number is lower than WiiUs first 5 weeks. I don't compare 4 months with 5 weeks, that's no comparison.

ahem, Sony shipped 3.5mil Ps3's in 2 quarters while JUST launching in Europe. Nintendo shiped 3mil in 1 quarter and judging from sales in NA and Japan they will ship around 500k in quarter 2. Soooo.... yeah

Can't all you guys read? What interest me the shipments for a full quarter, if I compare 5 weeks? 5 weeks PS3 after european launch + 5 weeks PS3 after launch < 5 weeks WiiU after launch.
And that doesn't mean WiiU sells bad NOW, it only means it had a better launch than PS3. PS3 sold better on a weekly base in the first year than WiiU does now. And that even without europe.



But that doesn't even make sense to compare.

You're right, it makes not much sense to compare 10 weeks of sales for PS3 with 5 weeks of sale of WiiU. But the claim I answered was that including european launch the PS3 would be on top, and no, it isn't.


It makes the most sense to compare official shipments to official statements in the same amount of quarters... if we do that we see Nintendo needing to ship 500k this quarter to match Ps3's number. However, Wii U's numbers have been lower than Ps3's so far in this quarter and it appears the shipments will be around the same amount. Then we also must consider... well shoot... ps3 only had 2 weeks of sales in Europe of 2 quarters worth of data



Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Someoneone forgot the PS3 launched 6 months AFTER it did in the U.S.
Therefore this whole argument is irrelevant the Wii U is doing worse than the PS3 lol.

Nope, WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you include the european launch for PS3. WiiU sells less on a weekly base now, even if you don't include europe for PS3. WiiU had 2 million 5 weeks after launch. PS3 had 687K. In the 5 weeks after european launch it made 1.1 million WORLDWIDE (not only EU). Together that makes less than 1.8 million. So WiiU launched better, even including european launch. Looking at thefirst years weekly sales WiiU is trending below PS3 even before european launch. So looking at the real numbers help avoids such wrong statements. (The conclusion that WiiU is doing worse than PS3 is true because of the second part, not because of the later european launch.)

Here is a thread with numbers: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=152379

The PS3 sold 1.1 mil in 4months? What where are you getting your numbers? This is for 4MONTHS. We are going off of 4 months in Europe not 5 weeks.

Nope, the PS3 sold 1.1 million in the 5 weeks following the european launch. I add that to the first 5 weeks of PS3 and that number is lower than WiiUs first 5 weeks. I don't compare 4 months with 5 weeks, that's no comparison.

ahem, Sony shipped 3.5mil Ps3's in 2 quarters while JUST launching in Europe. Nintendo shiped 3mil in 1 quarter and judging from sales in NA and Japan they will ship around 500k in quarter 2. Soooo.... yeah

Can't all you guys read? What interest me the shipments for a full quarter, if I compare 5 weeks? 5 weeks PS3 after european launch + 5 weeks PS3 after launch < 5 weeks WiiU after launch.
And that doesn't mean WiiU sells bad NOW, it only means it had a better launch than PS3. PS3 sold better on a weekly base in the first year than WiiU does now. And that even without europe.



But that doesn't even make sense to compare.

You're right, it makes not much sense to compare 10 weeks of sales for PS3 with 5 weeks of sale of WiiU. But the claim I answered was that including european launch the PS3 would be on top, and no, it isn't.


It makes the most sense to compare official shipments to official statements in the same amount of quarters... if we do that we see Nintendo needing to ship 500k this quarter to match Ps3's number. However, Wii U's numbers have been lower than Ps3's so far in this quarter and it appears the shipments will be around the same amount. Then we also must consider... well shoot... ps3 only had 2 weeks of sales in Europe of 2 quarters worth of data

No, it makes no sense at this point to compare shipment data. We have only data for one quarter for WiiU and first quarter of PS3 didn't include europe. Also your last sentence: in the shipment-data you will have also the shipped consoles for sale the weeks after launch, so it should be fitting, as they will have delivered a lot to meet demand.

But also two quarters I wouldn't count as launch anymore. But the statement of KingHades  was talking about the launch. So I added the 5 week-period after european launch to the 5 week-period after launch and it was lower. What more do you need. The WiiU had higher initial sales. And yes, now it sells below. But we are past the initial sales.



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Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Someoneone forgot the PS3 launched 6 months AFTER it did in the U.S.
Therefore this whole argument is irrelevant the Wii U is doing worse than the PS3 lol.

Nope, WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you include the european launch for PS3. WiiU sells less on a weekly base now, even if you don't include europe for PS3. WiiU had 2 million 5 weeks after launch. PS3 had 687K. In the 5 weeks after european launch it made 1.1 million WORLDWIDE (not only EU). Together that makes less than 1.8 million. So WiiU launched better, even including european launch. Looking at thefirst years weekly sales WiiU is trending below PS3 even before european launch. So looking at the real numbers help avoids such wrong statements. (The conclusion that WiiU is doing worse than PS3 is true because of the second part, not because of the later european launch.)

Here is a thread with numbers: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=152379

The PS3 sold 1.1 mil in 4months? What where are you getting your numbers? This is for 4MONTHS. We are going off of 4 months in Europe not 5 weeks.

Nope, the PS3 sold 1.1 million in the 5 weeks following the european launch. I add that to the first 5 weeks of PS3 and that number is lower than WiiUs first 5 weeks. I don't compare 4 months with 5 weeks, that's no comparison.

This whole debate is how much the Wii U sold in 4 MONTHS. Not 5 weeks not 2 day not 3 4 MONTHS.

4 Months in Europe tell me how much the PS3 Sold especially when it was DOUBLE the price of the Wii U.

Go ahead im waiting then add it with the rest of the PS3 number from when it launched 4 months into the U.S,Japan,AU etc...

this whole debate is about the launch, as this thread is titled 'Wii U INITIAL Sales Better Than PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360?'. I bolded the part you don't read. And I said again and again, that the WiiU launched better as PS3 even including the european launch and is now selling less. And you say four month, we don't have 4 months of WiiU-sales data so dar, so we can't compare that. But we have a bit more than 3 months now. After 15 weeks the WiiU sold 2.6 million and the PS3 sold 1.8 million. I'm pretty sure if we follow on the aligned cumulated sales for PS3 will be better at some point, as the weekly sales in the first year (Jan-Dec) are worse than the one of the PS3. But until now the good initial sales have the WiiU above PS3. Wait a little more, than your PS3 will be above. But I doubt we can talk about initial sales anymore.

The Wii U has been out for 4 months right? So that's the COMPARISON here we are comparing the first 4 months.

I'm sorry that you can't comprehend you don't have sales data for the first 4 months? It wouldn't make a difference the Wii U is bombing right now you don't want to do that comparison because you will loose even though that's a 100% fair comparison.



Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Mnementh said:
KingHades said:
Someoneone forgot the PS3 launched 6 months AFTER it did in the U.S.
Therefore this whole argument is irrelevant the Wii U is doing worse than the PS3 lol.

Nope, WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you include the european launch for PS3. WiiU sells less on a weekly base now, even if you don't include europe for PS3. WiiU had 2 million 5 weeks after launch. PS3 had 687K. In the 5 weeks after european launch it made 1.1 million WORLDWIDE (not only EU). Together that makes less than 1.8 million. So WiiU launched better, even including european launch. Looking at thefirst years weekly sales WiiU is trending below PS3 even before european launch. So looking at the real numbers help avoids such wrong statements. (The conclusion that WiiU is doing worse than PS3 is true because of the second part, not because of the later european launch.)

Here is a thread with numbers: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=152379

The PS3 sold 1.1 mil in 4months? What where are you getting your numbers? This is for 4MONTHS. We are going off of 4 months in Europe not 5 weeks.

Nope, the PS3 sold 1.1 million in the 5 weeks following the european launch. I add that to the first 5 weeks of PS3 and that number is lower than WiiUs first 5 weeks. I don't compare 4 months with 5 weeks, that's no comparison.

ahem, Sony shipped 3.5mil Ps3's in 2 quarters while JUST launching in Europe. Nintendo shiped 3mil in 1 quarter and judging from sales in NA and Japan they will ship around 500k in quarter 2. Soooo.... yeah

Can't all you guys read? What interest me the shipments for a full quarter, if I compare 5 weeks? 5 weeks PS3 after european launch + 5 weeks PS3 after launch < 5 weeks WiiU after launch.
And that doesn't mean WiiU sells bad NOW, it only means it had a better launch than PS3. PS3 sold better on a weekly base in the first year than WiiU does now. And that even without europe.



But that doesn't even make sense to compare.

You're right, it makes not much sense to compare 10 weeks of sales for PS3 with 5 weeks of sale of WiiU. But the claim I answered was that including european launch the PS3 would be on top, and no, it isn't.


It makes the most sense to compare official shipments to official statements in the same amount of quarters... if we do that we see Nintendo needing to ship 500k this quarter to match Ps3's number. However, Wii U's numbers have been lower than Ps3's so far in this quarter and it appears the shipments will be around the same amount. Then we also must consider... well shoot... ps3 only had 2 weeks of sales in Europe of 2 quarters worth of data

No, it makes no sense at this point to compare shipment data. We have only data for one quarter for WiiU and first quarter of PS3 didn't include europe. Also your last sentence: in the shipment-data you will have also the shipped consoles for sale the weeks after launch, so it should be fitting, as they will have delivered a lot to meet demand.

But also two quarters I wouldn't count as launch anymore. But the statement of KingHades  was talking about the launch. So I added the 5 week-period after european launch to the 5 week-period after launch and it was lower. What more do you need. The WiiU had higher initial sales. And yes, now it sells below. But we are past the initial sales.

The reason anyone would bring up launch sales is to provide an example of the console not doing poorly comparitively... but that all becomes irrelevant as more data comes it that we can compare it to... which we have. Ignoring that is just spin. As for the shipments to meet demand, Ps3 sold out in Europe and was supply constrained at launch. I'm not sure how long that lasted for but basically the amount they shipped they sold in March at launch.



Sony stated that there would be 1,000,000 PS3s in Europe for the launch period, including at least 220,000 in the UK.

The high launch price of the PS3 has been subjected to criticism from analysts, developers and consumers. Sony executive Phil Harrison has defended the price by citing its Blu-ray Disc support and overall value. The production cost at launch was estimated to be above US$800.00 per unit, with a projected decrease to US$320 per unit three years after.[7]

Sony announced that first party games (which were released a year after) would retail for £40/€60.

The PS3 was released in the UK & Ireland, the rest of Europe, and Australia & New Zealand on March 23, 2007 with a retail price of £425 €599. According to the Financial Times, The PS3 sold 600,000 units in the first two days of its release in Europe





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Citing VGC? LOL I think he should look at Feb NPD thread.