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Playstation All-Stars Is No Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Itís Better

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the magic of Smash imo is if you want to just have fun with it you can, no need to learn a ton of combos or strategies, you can just pick up and play and have a blast! You can customize the hell out of the game and do so much with it. At the same time, if you want to go at it like a street fighter with combos and strategies and such, it gets pretty damn deep. Its all on how you want to do it and its enjoyable regardless. My friends and I play Brawl hardcore and can say that there is nothing shallow about this game. Yeah it has a kiddy pool, but it also has a diving board at the far end where far deeper waters await.

Im not sure how PSAS is as Ive only read about it so far, does it include the same level of customization as Brawl? Is it as pick up and play?



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Balance and diversity wise I agree, since the characters play in a more unique way than Brawl. However the game itself lacked the other modes that Brawl has/have, so in a long run, Brawl feels more complete. Of course All-Stars is a new IP, and will develop well if a new entry is made in the future (Which I really hope for)



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PSASBR is an amazing game no doubt. It is at a disadvantage when it comes to opinion because of what it stands for in relation to SSB. It crossed some lines but they are lines worth crossing. I think it's great Sony pulled this title off.

I love, I mean LOVED, Melee. I couldn't quite get into Brawl but that might be because I only played it for a few hours. PSASBR is well made, has a level of complexity, and is just an all out fun game to play. At first you might feel lost, unsure of how to play or how to keep track of yourself, but give it some time and it becomes amazing. Another tip, if you are playing solo, play on the Vita. The Vita version is flawless and loads faster than the PS3 version. Save the PS3 for local multiplayer, though ad hoc is an option outside the home, nothing beats local multiplayer with friends.

The downsides of PSASBR:

They didn't animate the story mode. Actual CGI for the intro and ending would have been nice, though their rival interaction is animated so you get a taste of where they should go in the future.

The boss battle against Polygon Man is disappointing. Not only is the battle underwhelming but the way they depict Polygon Man is too. A definite area for improvement.

The upsides:

The characters are very diverse in move sets and they are complicated. Plenty of moves to utilize and each character feels right. Even Cole and Evil Cole are unique, while having a few similar basic attacks and the same level 1 super, other moves are different and alters each playing style.

Online capabilities really shine. Many have talked about the games net code and its ability to run a smooth game. While local multiplayer is king for these types of games, the great online component is a must feature for many of today's gamers.

Game options. While more game modes would be nice you can still utilize time limits, lives, and kill limits. Items can be selected individually and frequency adjusted. Hazards can be turned on an off and levels that evolve adjust proportionately to the length of time a match is set for. Teams can be set by color and AI difficulty can be adjusted widely.

Super system is fun, ring outs are not the only way to do a game like this. At first supers might seem daunting, what do they do, why can I hit them, etc. You need to learn each character's supers and how to use them and when to use them. While ring outs are a lot of fun, so are supers. To compare in SSB, you try to land hits to do damage then you try to land hits to kill. In PSASBR you try to land hits to gain AP, then you use supers to maximize kills. Ring outs can be strategic and so can supers. Both are great. Just because it isn't how SSB does it doesn't mean its bad and if you think it does you should feel bad.


Try genuinely playing the game. Play a couple story modes, play a few matches online, play together with friends. Learn how to use at least one character effectively and that is how you can judge this game's merits. If you have any liken to games like this and actually do this I almost guarantee you will have fun.



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itsyounghavok said:
the magic of Smash imo is if you want to just have fun with it you can, no need to learn a ton of combos or strategies, you can just pick up and play and have a blast! You can customize the hell out of the game and do so much with it. At the same time, if you want to go at it like a street fighter with combos and strategies and such, it gets pretty damn deep. Its all on how you want to do it and its enjoyable regardless. My friends and I play Brawl hardcore and can say that there is nothing shallow about this game. Yeah it has a kiddy pool, but it also has a diving board at the far end where far deeper waters await.

Im not sure how PSAS is as Ive only read about it so far, does it include the same level of customization as Brawl? Is it as pick up and play?


it certainly has the pick-up-and-playablility of smash.  each character has basically 12 moves as illustrated by each combination of (square, triangle, circle) + (up, down, forward, or don't press the analog stick).  add to that a jump, block, taunt, and super (aka smash) button and you are good to go.  some of the moves are chargable too.

some characters (like kratos) is really, really easy to play just by button mashing.  but there are others which are far more complex.  sackboy kind of plays like olimar in that they are both "utiltiy" characters.  toro plays a bit like shiek/zelda in that torro has three costumes each with unique move sets.  harder to play but also really versatile once you master them.

things get even deeper if you want to learn which moves will combo together.  you'll need to know that if you want to be amazing at this game but certainly not needed for beginers.

really, it plays like smash but with less character cloning.  PSAS as 19 very unique fighters.  SSB starts with 35 but cloning means there are really only 28ish unique fighters.  more, but not as much more at first glance.

games can be customized too.  time limit play or stock play, team battles or free for alls, pick which items will or will not appear, AP modifiers (same as brawls damage modifier), minimum AP levels.  it's been a while since i played smash but i don't think PSAS was missing any features there.

if all you want to do is play multiplayer brawls with your friends you won't feel like PSAS is missing a thing.  it's really the solo campain where SSB is really outshining PSAS.



Playstation All-Stars is good, Great even. It is NOT as good as Super smash Brothers. not nearly as much content, not as much depth, not balanced as well, not as many characters or stages or customization options. Yeah, the combo system is really good, and the moves are varied and the gameplay is solid, but it's got a ways to go before it's as good as smash.

I figure a sequel could rival Brawl, but as it stands, I wouldn't even say All-Stars is as good as Melee. Very solid first effort, and Superbot will definitely learn a lot from this game and what player feedback they get, but as it stands it's not as good. It's different and still awesome, as I said in my review, but it is not as good.

http://www.gamrreview.com/review/89513/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-review



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Flanneryaug said:

I think you should put Opinion: in the title of your thread. Most people, including critics, disagree.

EDIT: Nevermind, missed the note at the top of the article.


Lol. Critics....their opinions are worthless.



Why must you discuss Smash Bros to priase All-Stars?

Nintendo doesn't care? Really? Stop being such a drama queen.



itsyounghavok said:
the magic of Smash imo is if you want to just have fun with it you can, no need to learn a ton of combos or strategies, you can just pick up and play and have a blast! You can customize the hell out of the game and do so much with it. At the same time, if you want to go at it like a street fighter with combos and strategies and such, it gets pretty damn deep. Its all on how you want to do it and its enjoyable regardless. My friends and I play Brawl hardcore and can say that there is nothing shallow about this game. Yeah it has a kiddy pool, but it also has a diving board at the far end where far deeper waters await.

Im not sure how PSAS is as Ive only read about it so far, does it include the same level of customization as Brawl? Is it as pick up and play?

It is pick up and play friendly. I think the single player does a good job of introducing and familiarizing with the characters and gameplay. I think where the game shines is in the local multiplayer (same as Melee and Brawl).

I think the online of this type of game is fairly worthless and boring.



I was pleasantly surprised by the beta, I honestly wasn't expecting much when I downloaded it, I can't wait to get the full game. I like Brawl, but I think I actually prefer All Stars, just because of how hectic it is.



Runa216 said:
Playstation All-Stars is good, Great even. It is NOT as good as Super smash Brothers. not nearly as much content, not as much depth, not balanced as well, not as many characters or stages or customization options. Yeah, the combo system is really good, and the moves are varied and the gameplay is solid, but it's got a ways to go before it's as good as smash.

I figure a sequel could rival Brawl, but as it stands, I wouldn't even say All-Stars is as good as Melee. Very solid first effort, and Superbot will definitely learn a lot from this game and what player feedback they get, but as it stands it's not as good. It's different and still awesome, as I said in my review, but it is not as good.

http://www.gamrreview.com/review/89513/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-review

I actually really liked that review. Didn't realize that was you.