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Khuutra said:
Jay520 said:
Khuutra said:

Inappropriate response above me notwithstanding

I am also going to express disapproval of your profiteering:

I disapprove.


meh...profiteering is relative. What you may disapprove of, other people & cultures applaud. 

Cultural relativity, by necessity, means I don't have to care about cultural relativity


So you admit to being both ethnocentric and intolerant?



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Jay520 said:
Khuutra said:

Cultural relativity, by necessity, means I don't have to care about cultural relativity

So you admit to being both ethnocentric and intolerant?

Are you saying that there's a necessary cultural homogeny within a given ethnicity? I have some textbooks I could share with you on the subject, but it can best be summed up as "That is a fallacious assumption"

Now, as to intolerant, we'd have to lay down the framework in which "intolerance" can be appropriately applied, so as to avoid the problem of saying that anyone who disapproves of anything is necessarily intolerant

The question is

How long do you want this conversation to be.



Khuutra said:
Jay520 said:
Khuutra said:

Cultural relativity, by necessity, means I don't have to care about cultural relativity

So you admit to being both ethnocentric and intolerant?

Are you saying that there's a necessary cultural homogeny within a given ethnicity? I have some textbooks I could share with you on the subject, but it can best be summed up as "That is a fallacious assumption"

Now, as to intolerant, we'd have to lay down the framework in which "intolerance" can be appropriately applied, so as to avoid the problem of saying that anyone who disapproves of anything is necessarily intolerant

The question is

How long do you want this conversation to be.

Yes, ethnicity, by definition, consists of people of a similar culture. If you don't agree with that definition, then it doesn't matter anyway, since the term 'ethnocentrism' is based around culture regardless.

So do you admit to being ethnocentric?

 

As for intolerance, I agree that mere disapproval may or may qualify as intolerance, depending on certain person's definition of the term. For clarity, I suppose it's appropriate for me to ask: Do you respect runqvist's actions? That should make your tolerance, or lack thereof, more obvious.

As for how long I want this convo to be (not sure why you italicized 'be')...as long as it takes you to admit to your ways.



Jay520 said:
Khuutra said:

Are you saying that there's a necessary cultural homogeny within a given ethnicity? I have some textbooks I could share with you on the subject, but it can best be summed up as "That is a fallacious assumption"

Now, as to intolerant, we'd have to lay down the framework in which "intolerance" can be appropriately applied, so as to avoid the problem of saying that anyone who disapproves of anything is necessarily intolerant

The question is

How long do you want this conversation to be.

Yes, ethnicity, by definition, consists of people of a similar culture. If you don't agree with that definition, then it doesn't matter anyway, since the term 'ethnocentrism' is based around culture regardless.

So do you admit to being ethnocentric?

 

As for intolerance, I agree that mere disapproval may or may qualify as intolerance, depending on certain person's definition of the term. For clarity, I suppose it's appropriate for me to ask: Do you respect runqvist's actions? That should make your tolerance, or lack thereof, more obvious.

As for how long I want this convo to be (not sure why you italicized 'be')...as long as it takes you to admit to your ways.

Ethnicity in some contexts can refer to cultural uniformity, but often not; one would not refer to "ethnic Chinese living in Toronto" as being culturally homogenous, because they aren't; China is home to many cultures, regardless of the fact that ethnic Chinese share the same racial background and place of origin. My wife qualifies as ethnic Chinese, but she's removed from China by at least two generations on her father's side and one on her mother's. To claim that she shares the same culture as her grandmother, who fled China ahead of the cultural revolution while my wife was born and raised to be Canadian, would be fallacious in the extreme.

Now, "ethnocentric" is a problematic term in and of itself because it implies that I am basing my views concerning a person's actions on their culture, race, creed, or other identifying group (usually race where I'm from, apparently culture for you). That's not the case; my responses are to the action itself, regardless of the cultural framework that spawns it, so by definition my disapproval cannot be ethnocentric.

Now, that doesn't mean that I am not ethnocentric as a rule, but that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I reject the validity of "respecting" actions; rather it is appropriate to say that I respect his right to carry them out but I hold it to be ethically questionable at best. Your question is meaningless, because it applies a sense of agency that it's not possible for that particular word to have.

Now, we've established that I can't be ethnocentric in the context of my disapproval, and that you have failed to qualify what "intolerance" means.

Also, I type like I talk, and italics are there for emphasis. It is a natural extension of the emphasis I use in speech.

I assume we're done here; if we aren't, you're in for a long conversation.



NightDragon83 said:
runqvist said:
I sure hope so, since I preordered five consoles just for their resale-value. I am hoping to double my money.

Have fun barely getting your money back then.  No one in their right mind would pay $600 for a console.

 

 

Except Sony fans.


Last time Nintendo released a home console, I doubled my money with ease. Back then I was not going for the money, just bought few consoles for presents and when I noticed that they were sold out I decided to make some money for myself. Now I have the same option, give those consoles as gifts if profits aren't good enough. A bit expensive but I believe kids will be very pleased opening their presents. :)



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Don't know if there will be a line in Australia.

The only line that was their for Wii's launch were those who preorded it and went to the midnight launch lol.

I don't think any console here has hit the same status as iphone yet.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
Don't know if there will be a line in Australia.

The only line that was their for Wii's launch were those who preorded it and went to the midnight launch lol.

I don't think any console here has hit the same status as iphone yet.

Are there enough people in Australia to make a line?

(flees)



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Mr Khan said:
Cobretti2 said:
Don't know if there will be a line in Australia.

The only line that was their for Wii's launch were those who preorded it and went to the midnight launch lol.

I don't think any console here has hit the same status as iphone yet.

Are there enough people in Australia to make a line?

(flees)


haha there is because like ~98% of the population lives on the east coast near the shoreline haha. If you spread the population across thoe whole of Australia then no there wouldn't be enough people in one area to form a line.



 

 

runqvist said:
aikohualda said:

did you do the same thing with ps vita?

No, Vita was released after christmas and as far as I know Sony does not fake supply constraints. WiiU releases just in time for christmas, profits are quaranteed with just that.

"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it."

-Jack Tretton.

 

Yes, there will be a line.    The demand for the Wii at launch was lower than the current demand for Wii U is.   It was until just after the Wii launced that it became a mainstream magnet.



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Mr Khan said:
Cobretti2 said:
Don't know if there will be a line in Australia.

The only line that was their for Wii's launch were those who preorded it and went to the midnight launch lol.

I don't think any console here has hit the same status as iphone yet.

Are there enough people in Australia to make a line?

(flees)

No, but they can beef up the line with sheeps and kangaroos.  O-)





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