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Hynad said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
I doubt it. If SE want Versus XIII to die quietly, then why release the song "Somnus" as a dlc in final Fantasy Theatrhythm.


But but but... the DLC came out A LOOOOONNNNG time ago in Japan.  Like 3 years ago or somethin'! So this is not a true real legitimate argument!

 

 

...Is what I was told. ¬_¬


Did it occur to you guys that they released that to gauge the interest there still was in VersusXIII?Its possible it wasnt that great.



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darkknightkryta said:
Tridrakious said:
If this really is true, the damage to the company will not be something it cane rebound from. Seriously, this was the last title that was holding the faithful together. With it gone...this company might as well close it's doors.

I disagree, there's still quite a bit of people who really blindly liked FInal Fantasy XIII and completely ignored the game's flaws.  Hell Final Fantasy XIII has the worst ending I've ever seen in a game, yet my friend had to hold back her tears.... I had to hold back myself from throwing my disc out the window.

Of course looking at XIII-2's sales, we see that a massive number of people didn't buy the sequel. That shows the base is slipping away. I'm sure if Final Fantasy XIII-3 was announced it would fail to meet even XIII-2's numbers.



Tridrakious said:
darkknightkryta said:
Tridrakious said:
If this really is true, the damage to the company will not be something it cane rebound from. Seriously, this was the last title that was holding the faithful together. With it gone...this company might as well close it's doors.

I disagree, there's still quite a bit of people who really blindly liked FInal Fantasy XIII and completely ignored the game's flaws.  Hell Final Fantasy XIII has the worst ending I've ever seen in a game, yet my friend had to hold back her tears.... I had to hold back myself from throwing my disc out the window.

Of course looking at XIII-2's sales, we see that a massive number of people didn't buy the sequel. That shows the base is slipping away. I'm sure if Final Fantasy XIII-3 was announced it would fail to meet even XIII-2's numbers.

Sold less, still sold a lot.  To lazy to look, but what's the game sitting at between the 2 consoles?  3 million?  Not too bad, and a lot for a game.  Enough for a profit.  Enough to keep Square a float.  But they are in a downward spiral and it'll just take quite a bit longer for them to reach bankruptcy.



Tridrakious said:
darkknightkryta said:
Tridrakious said:
If this really is true, the damage to the company will not be something it cane rebound from. Seriously, this was the last title that was holding the faithful together. With it gone...this company might as well close it's doors.

I disagree, there's still quite a bit of people who really blindly liked FInal Fantasy XIII and completely ignored the game's flaws.  Hell Final Fantasy XIII has the worst ending I've ever seen in a game, yet my friend had to hold back her tears.... I had to hold back myself from throwing my disc out the window.

Of course looking at XIII-2's sales, we see that a massive number of people didn't buy the sequel. That shows the base is slipping away. I'm sure if Final Fantasy XIII-3 was announced it would fail to meet even XIII-2's numbers.

It really would depend on wether they changed the horrid combat system.

If they change it to something like say FFX for example, its a buy for me. Keep the auto-attack madness and its as much of a pass as XIII-2 was.



darkknightkryta said:
Tridrakious said:
darkknightkryta said:
Tridrakious said:
If this really is true, the damage to the company will not be something it cane rebound from. Seriously, this was the last title that was holding the faithful together. With it gone...this company might as well close it's doors.

I disagree, there's still quite a bit of people who really blindly liked FInal Fantasy XIII and completely ignored the game's flaws.  Hell Final Fantasy XIII has the worst ending I've ever seen in a game, yet my friend had to hold back her tears.... I had to hold back myself from throwing my disc out the window.

Of course looking at XIII-2's sales, we see that a massive number of people didn't buy the sequel. That shows the base is slipping away. I'm sure if Final Fantasy XIII-3 was announced it would fail to meet even XIII-2's numbers.

Sold less, still sold a lot.  To lazy to look, but what's the game sitting at between the 2 consoles?  3 million?  Not too bad, and a lot for a game.  Enough for a profit.  Enough to keep Square a float.  But they are in a downward spiral and it'll just take quite a bit longer for them to reach bankruptcy.

SE is one of the healthies VG companies financially. Even during the disaster that was the FFXIV launch they had good profits. They are not gonna go bankrupt any time soon.



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Runa216 said:

Being a gamble and being ambitious are NOT The same things.  There's nothing more to it than that. You know how everyone complained about Dragon Age II being simpler and more boring in spite of it being more action packed?  same deal.  Making a game simpler but prettier is not ambitious, even if the game series has been known for complexity and depth.  Simply changing course and trying something new does not mean it's ambitious.  yes they wanted lots of sales...but they ALWAYS want lots of sales, there's nothing special or outstanding about XIII aside from its admittedly good (if generic and uninspired) graphics.

I'm a little dissapointed at how stubornly some people simply want to hate this game.

If this looks generic and unispired to you, I'm sorry.  Yes, one of the very few good things XIII DID have was the highly inspired world.

FINAL FANTASY means a grand story is in order and the story if anything did happen to have complexity and depth. I mean seriously it's getting old...



DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Runa216 said:

Being a gamble and being ambitious are NOT The same things.  There's nothing more to it than that. You know how everyone complained about Dragon Age II being simpler and more boring in spite of it being more action packed?  same deal.  Making a game simpler but prettier is not ambitious, even if the game series has been known for complexity and depth.  Simply changing course and trying something new does not mean it's ambitious.  yes they wanted lots of sales...but they ALWAYS want lots of sales, there's nothing special or outstanding about XIII aside from its admittedly good (if generic and uninspired) graphics.

I'm a little dissapointed at how stubornly some people simply want to hate this game.

If this looks generic and unispired to you, I'm sorry.  Yes, one of the very few good things XIII DID have was the highly inspired world.

FINAL FANTASY means a grand story is in order and the story if anything did happen to have complexity and depth. I mean seriously it's getting old...

Final Fantasy XIII's story certainly isn't its strong point. Most of it is buried in the datalog and the vilains are very forgettable. Most of the story revolves around the heroes being l'Cie and wanting to break their focus.



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TruckOSaurus said:

Final Fantasy XIII's story certainly isn't its strong point. Most of it is buried in the datalog and the vilains are very forgettable. Most of the story revolves around the heroes being l'Cie and wanting to break their focus.


Yeah, the story's the (real) controversial thing about the game and that's why i say it was a gamble to invest all their work around it.

For the first time in the series it didn't revolve around a strong personal drama, it was about the friction between the team itself. The villains are not exactly forgettable, there were totally impersonal (  not like Jecht was for Tidus for example ), orphan was an expressionist sculpture !

I think some people reacted to this game very immaturely and behaved like 8 year olds who got clothes for christmas. My suggestion would be play it again with an open mind, like I did years later with IX.

I think it was strong because it was a highly original and interesting addition in the series BUT I also believed to was also a product of the creator's effort to shift the focus on a western audience based on their (false) preconceptions of what they think we want. And that's why Versus is so anticipated. It is more like the "exotic" original japanese approach to gaming we have so missed.



DigitalDevilSummoner said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Final Fantasy XIII's story certainly isn't its strong point. Most of it is buried in the datalog and the vilains are very forgettable. Most of the story revolves around the heroes being l'Cie and wanting to break their focus.


Yeah, the story's the (real) controversial thing about the game and that's why i say it was a gamble to invest all their work around it.

For the first time in the series it didn't revolve around a strong personal drama, it was about the friction between the team itself. The villains are not exactly forgettable, there were totally impersonal (  not like Jecht was for Tidus for example ), orphan was an expressionist sculpture !

I think some people reacted to this game very immaturely and behaved like 8 year olds who got clothes for christmas. My suggestion would be play it again with an open mind, like I did years later with IX.

I think it was strong because it was a highly original and interesting addition in the series BUT I also believed to was also a product of the creator's effort to shift the focus on a western audience based on their (false) preconceptions of what they think we want. And that's why Versus is so anticipated. It is more like the "exotic" original japanese approach to gaming we have so missed.

They invested most of their work in the presentation moreso than the story itself because the story was very poorly told.



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Maybe Square-Enix needs to drop FF as a big budget game and go back to their past charm style. World map, random encounters, Turn based fighting. Most people say Losy Odyssey was their favorite JRPG and what FF should have been. As a big budget game Square-Enix seems to think life like graphics are all that matters.