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David Jaffe has issued a statement regarding G4TV’s review of the Playstation 3 exclusive title, Twisted Metal. Although he was fine with the review itself, he wasn’t too happy at how the reviewer responded to critics from the comment section of the article. You can check out the latest screens from the car combat game in the slideshow to the left of this article in addition to David Jaffe’s multi-post message on Twitter below:

Hey @g4tv - I had/have ZERO problems with your review of our game. You are entitled to that opinion and I respect it and appreciate it. As ya'll know, I dig your network and am always honored and excited when I get to do stuff with you guys. 5/5 or 1/5, that won't change. So with all that out of the way, let's be clear: the review your guy wrote was fine, but his insults and attitude and response to folks on the comment section makes it pretty obvious: y'all got an ill informed d**k on the payroll who admits to bringing an agenda to his review process. Am higher G4. I'd rather get a 1/5 from someone who knows his s**t like @AdamSessler than this 3.5/5 from his guy who would rather pick a fight and push his agenda that do his job. Anyway, much love g4. I remain a fan. But f**k that guy. What a d**k. :)

You can also check out the original statement from the reviewer in the comment section of the G4TV review before it was deleted:

Wow. Thanks everyone for your usual level of insightful commentary. I can always count on you guys for this sort of feedback.

In case you didn't know, I'm the guy who wrote the review (not Adam, so leave the poor guy alone). Without going blow-by-blow, I'll say a few words on the matter.

First off, 3 was my optimistic score. If you're happy playing a game that's nearly 20 years old, more power to you. Most gamers, I believe, expect there to be some kind of evolution in gameplay and Twisted Metal doesn't have any. Seriously, if you just want the same damn thing you got when you were nine, that's fine. More power to you, as the developer has given you exactly that.

Twisted Metal is a game built on the homage to the sort of heavy metal slasher-themed B-movies one might assume the developers loved, but the problem with this genre--be it games or movies--is that it's really hard to do well. TM gets the atmosphere right with its cinematics, but just feels cheap in most other places. The graphics are completely lackluster and there's just bits of laziness throughout. The handbrake is a perfect example--go ahead and hold it down without pressing any button, then steer. The car magically goes in a circle. Lame.

Also, to all those who are so adamant that the driving mechanics don't matter... What? This clearly isn't a racing game--as the racing levels vividly prove--but just because the gameplay focuses on shooting is no excuse whatsoever to not have a decent driving model. To suggest it doesn't matter is ludicrous. No matter what you want to believe, this is a driving game... it's a CAR combat game, and driving is the activity you constantly engage in. Shooting is the activity you engage in as much as possible, but the odds are if you're shooting you're also driving... The driving model feels 20 years old.

I love car combat games. Love them. And I've played a ton of them, including all the old Twisted Metal games. They were decent, if unexceptional games, period. Fun, shallow, and dumb. Much as we all like to jump aboard the nostalgic retro train the simple fact is this: games are better now. Technology and design have come a long way, and I'm sick to death of developers (particularly those from the 90's) who feel content to just shove out the same old crap they always did. It's a particular issue I have with most of the AAA-shooter houses from the 90's. And they don't like me much either.

Finally, give it a rest with the "G4 is biased against Sony" or "paid off by Microsoft". Many of us who review these games don't even work for G4 directly, we just happen to love and care about games and the industry. I divide my time pretty heavily among all platforms and most of my favorite games of last year I personally played on my PS3(s)--Killzone 3, Batman: AC, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, LBP2... just to name a few. The system we, as reviewers, play on is virtually irrelevant.

Just because our opinion doesn't match up with yours does not mean we're on some mythical take. Eventually, you'll have to understand that different people have different opinions and that doesn't mean you can act like an idiot over it. Unless you actually do want to keep living in your mom's basement wondering why real girls won't talk to you.

Also, and for the record, I really can't stand the Call of Duty games. So comparing any of those damn games to a review I write is pointless. I'm not that fond of Halo either.

Thank you and good night.

Twisted Metal was released exclusively for the Playstation 3 in North America on February 14th.

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He's right.

I still remember an issue of Gameinformer that replied to a reader message that was genuinely asking why CoD gets good scores each year despite barely changing, yet Sonic Generations got slammed by them, and all he replied with was that IT WAS A BAD GAME AND THROW YOUR MONEY AT SEGA THEYLL LIKE IT, something extremely childish like that. How people like this are in the industry is beyond me.



I like how the person from G4 responded as though Jaffe was taking jabs at Adam Sessler.

Also, am I missing something here or does it sound like a random attack about the system bias or was that a part of the review process?'

Either way, G4 doesn't always have the best reviews for any game but I've never heard the Sony/Microsoft bias. I've always heard the Morgan Webb "rabble rabble rabble. I hate nintendo. rabble rabble rabble" but nothing against either of the HD consoles.



So, the civil comment of 8 paragraphs had one mildly insulting paragraph (idiot, mom's basement), and the comment gets deleted, David Jaffe publicly calles him a dick and throws the F-bomb? I also don't see any agenda whatsoever.

I'm confused.



Cry me a river Jaffe.



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I agree with Jaffe

i thought that jaffe was exaggerating at 1st but as i read i started to understand why he responded to the G4TV review

First off, 3 was my optimistic score. If you're happy playing a game that's nearly 20 years old, more power to you. Most gamers, I believe, expect there to be some kind of evolution in gameplay and Twisted Metal doesn't have any. Seriously, if you just want the same damn thing you got when you were nine, that's fine. More power to you, as the developer has given you exactly that.

 

^^^ this part was kinda harsh and i dont understand what he means by evolution here

 

like what the fuck can they possibly do that would be so new and evolution like that he would be satisfied with in a car combat game?

 

stuff like Mario kart has been around for a long time but to me it's been  the same for the most part. I dont remember anything "evolutionary" in any of the Mario Karts

 

hell, i cant even think of too many old game franchises that felt evolutionary gameplay wise this gen. I can only think of Mario Galaxy at the moment

 

why try to fix something that isn't broken? and its not like we see twisted metal every 1-2 years

 

he implied that Twisted Metal has NOTHING new so i guess the new NUKE mode, sniping and helicopter segments in Twisted Metal is the same as it was nearly 20 years ago right? LMAO

 

but whatever though..



enditall727 said:

I agree with Jaffe

i thought that jaffe was exaggerating at 1st but as i read i started to understand why he responded to the G4TV review

First off, 3 was my optimistic score. If you're happy playing a game that's nearly 20 years old, more power to you. Most gamers, I believe, expect there to be some kind of evolution in gameplay and Twisted Metal doesn't have any. Seriously, if you just want the same damn thing you got when you were nine, that's fine. More power to you, as the developer has given you exactly that.

 

^^^ this part was kinda harsh and i dont understand what he means by evolution here

 

like what the fuck can they possibly do that would be so new and evolution like that he would be satisfied with in a car combat game?

 

stuff like Mario kart has been around for a long time but to me it's been  the same for the most part. I dont remember anything "evolutionary" in any of the Mario Karts

 

hell, i cant even think of too many old game franchises that felt evolutionary gameplay wise this gen. I can only think of Mario Galaxy at the moment

 

why try to fix something that isn't broken? and its not like we see twisted metal every 1-2 years

 

he implied that Twisted Metal has NOTHING new so i guess the new NUKE mode, sniping and helicopter segments in Twisted Metal is the same as it was nearly 20 years ago right? LMAO

 

but whatever though..

The problem is you.  Mario kart always has been an excellent franchise while Twisted metal always has been a broken franchise that got average reviewscores:

PS2 Twisted Metal: Black
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2001
88.52%
57 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal 2
SingleTrac/SCEA, 1996
86.44%
8 Reviews
PS3 Twisted Metal
Eat Sleep Play/SCEA, 2012
80.70%
10 Reviews
PSP Twisted Metal: Head-On
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2005
78.82%
51 Reviews
PS2 Twisted Metal: Black Online
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2002
75.31%
30 Reviews
PS2 Twisted Metal: Head-On - Extra Twisted Edition
Eat Sleep Play/SCEA, 2008
73.56%
33 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal 4
989 Studios, 1999
68.04%
17 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal
SingleTrac/SCEA, 1995
66.88%
4 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal Small Brawl
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2001
57.12%
16 Reviews
PC Twisted Metal 2
SingleTrac/Sony Interactive Studios America, 1997
49.50%
2 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal III
989 Studios, 1998
48.97%
12 Reviews


 

Lostplanet22 said:
enditall727 said:

I agree with Jaffe

i thought that jaffe was exaggerating at 1st but as i read i started to understand why he responded to the G4TV review

First off, 3 was my optimistic score. If you're happy playing a game that's nearly 20 years old, more power to you. Most gamers, I believe, expect there to be some kind of evolution in gameplay and Twisted Metal doesn't have any. Seriously, if you just want the same damn thing you got when you were nine, that's fine. More power to you, as the developer has given you exactly that.

 

^^^ this part was kinda harsh and i dont understand what he means by evolution here

 

like what the fuck can they possibly do that would be so new and evolution like that he would be satisfied with in a car combat game?

 

stuff like Mario kart has been around for a long time but to me it's been  the same for the most part. I dont remember anything "evolutionary" in any of the Mario Karts

 

hell, i cant even think of too many old game franchises that felt evolutionary gameplay wise this gen. I can only think of Mario Galaxy at the moment

 

why try to fix something that isn't broken? and its not like we see twisted metal every 1-2 years

 

he implied that Twisted Metal has NOTHING new so i guess the new NUKE mode, sniping and helicopter segments in Twisted Metal is the same as it was nearly 20 years ago right? LMAO

 

but whatever though..

The problem is you.  Mario kart always has been an excellent franchise while Twisted metal always has been a broken franchise that got average reviewscores:

PS2 Twisted Metal: Black
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2001
88.52%
57 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal 2
SingleTrac/SCEA, 1996
86.44%
8 Reviews
PS3 Twisted Metal
Eat Sleep Play/SCEA, 2012
80.70%
10 Reviews
PSP Twisted Metal: Head-On
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2005
78.82%
51 Reviews
PS2 Twisted Metal: Black Online
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2002
75.31%
30 Reviews
PS2 Twisted Metal: Head-On - Extra Twisted Edition
Eat Sleep Play/SCEA, 2008
73.56%
33 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal 4
989 Studios, 1999
68.04%
17 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal
SingleTrac/SCEA, 1995
66.88%
4 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal Small Brawl
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2001
57.12%
16 Reviews
PC Twisted Metal 2
SingleTrac/Sony Interactive Studios America, 1997
49.50%
2 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal III
989 Studios, 1998
48.97%
12 Reviews


i would say that Mario Kart is an excellent franchise because I PLAY THEM and know from experience, not because of what ANY reviewer says about them

the same goes for Twisted Metal

 

now tell me what all the other reviewers have to do with this specific reviewers words about twisted? did Jaffe respond to their reviews like he did to this 1 or something?

 

and im guessing you are either saying that the problem is "me" because i dont see why he implied that Twisted Metal has nothing new gameplay wise(when it does!) or is it the fact that i said that i feel that Mario Kart has not really seen any evolution gameplay wise this gen and last gen that he claims should be seen(which it hasn't!)

 

the only thing that was new that i can remember was using 2 characters(Double Dash) and driving underwater and in the air(Mario Kart 3DS) but the gameplay has been the same really except for the wii version taking away the manual speed boost thingy

but what do you mean by the problem is "me"? could you elaborate please



I agree with Jaffe... the final score doesn't matter... neither the reviewer opinion... but insult the gamers just because the they like TM... no way.



Lostplanet22 said:
enditall727 said:

I agree with Jaffe

i thought that jaffe was exaggerating at 1st but as i read i started to understand why he responded to the G4TV review

First off, 3 was my optimistic score. If you're happy playing a game that's nearly 20 years old, more power to you. Most gamers, I believe, expect there to be some kind of evolution in gameplay and Twisted Metal doesn't have any. Seriously, if you just want the same damn thing you got when you were nine, that's fine. More power to you, as the developer has given you exactly that.

 

^^^ this part was kinda harsh and i dont understand what he means by evolution here

 

like what the fuck can they possibly do that would be so new and evolution like that he would be satisfied with in a car combat game?

 

stuff like Mario kart has been around for a long time but to me it's been  the same for the most part. I dont remember anything "evolutionary" in any of the Mario Karts

 

hell, i cant even think of too many old game franchises that felt evolutionary gameplay wise this gen. I can only think of Mario Galaxy at the moment

 

why try to fix something that isn't broken? and its not like we see twisted metal every 1-2 years

 

he implied that Twisted Metal has NOTHING new so i guess the new NUKE mode, sniping and helicopter segments in Twisted Metal is the same as it was nearly 20 years ago right? LMAO

 

but whatever though..

The problem is you.  Mario kart always has been an excellent franchise while Twisted metal always has been a broken franchise that got average reviewscores:

PS2 Twisted Metal: Black
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2001
88.52%
57 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal 2
SingleTrac/SCEA, 1996
86.44%
8 Reviews
PS3 Twisted Metal
Eat Sleep Play/SCEA, 2012
80.70%
10 Reviews
PSP Twisted Metal: Head-On
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2005
78.82%
51 Reviews
PS2 Twisted Metal: Black Online
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2002
75.31%
30 Reviews
PS2 Twisted Metal: Head-On - Extra Twisted Edition
Eat Sleep Play/SCEA, 2008
73.56%
33 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal 4
989 Studios, 1999
68.04%
17 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal
SingleTrac/SCEA, 1995
66.88%
4 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal Small Brawl
Incognito Inc./SCEA, 2001
57.12%
16 Reviews
PC Twisted Metal 2
SingleTrac/Sony Interactive Studios America, 1997
49.50%
2 Reviews
PS Twisted Metal III
989 Studios, 1998
48.97%
12 Reviews

Where did you get this reviews?