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Scoobes said:
Pineapple said:

While the 40 million are all the total accounts, there's a huge amount of active ones. It's peaked at 5 million concurrent users, and trends at averaging over 3 million users at any given time.

If you say the average Steam user is online 6 hours a day, that's 12 million people online each day. 
If you say the average Steam user is online 4 hours a day, that's 18 million people online each day.

You could also use the fact that Steam generates 2 billion in revenue (or so. It was 1 billion in 2010 (http://pixelsmashers.com/?p=7412) and has seen a 100% increase in games sold). That's 50 dollars a person. Or well, a bit more than 50 dollars a person, as not all of the 40 million people were there at the start of 2011. Let's compare that to the Ps3.

The Ps3 sold around 125 million games in 2011 - according to VGChartz - on 46 million accounts. That's 2.7 games a person. I'm not sure how much the average Ps3 game costs, but it's bound to be more than 18 dollars.

As such, the average Steam user buys fewer games than the average Ps3 owner. That could be down to a load of things, but it does give a point in the direction that there are more inactive steam accounts than unused Playstion 3s.

Considerring how cheap games are during the sales, you could probably buy anywhere between 1-5 games on $50. Also, some people buy games at retail that then require Steam (e.g. Skyrim). I doubt Valve would see much share from that if any. 


Only 1-5 games for $50?!? What service have you been using? I own 174 titles on Steam and I can remember the one time I spent more than $5 for a single game, Mass Effect 2 which was $6.74 IIRC.



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bouzane said:
Scoobes said:
Pineapple said:

While the 40 million are all the total accounts, there's a huge amount of active ones. It's peaked at 5 million concurrent users, and trends at averaging over 3 million users at any given time.

If you say the average Steam user is online 6 hours a day, that's 12 million people online each day. 
If you say the average Steam user is online 4 hours a day, that's 18 million people online each day.

You could also use the fact that Steam generates 2 billion in revenue (or so. It was 1 billion in 2010 (http://pixelsmashers.com/?p=7412) and has seen a 100% increase in games sold). That's 50 dollars a person. Or well, a bit more than 50 dollars a person, as not all of the 40 million people were there at the start of 2011. Let's compare that to the Ps3.

The Ps3 sold around 125 million games in 2011 - according to VGChartz - on 46 million accounts. That's 2.7 games a person. I'm not sure how much the average Ps3 game costs, but it's bound to be more than 18 dollars.

As such, the average Steam user buys fewer games than the average Ps3 owner. That could be down to a load of things, but it does give a point in the direction that there are more inactive steam accounts than unused Playstion 3s.

Considerring how cheap games are during the sales, you could probably buy anywhere between 1-5 games on $50. Also, some people buy games at retail that then require Steam (e.g. Skyrim). I doubt Valve would see much share from that if any. 


Only 1-5 games for $50?!? What service have you been using? I own 174 titles on Steam and I can remember the one time I spent more than $5 for a single game, Mass Effect 2 which was $6.74 IIRC.


That's you, though. Most people don't work quite like that. If you look at the top sellers on Steam, plenty of them are at 50 dollars/euros a pop. For instance, somewhere between 1 and 2 million people bought Skyrim early on through Steam. At 50 dollars in Europe and the equivalent of 70 dollars in Europe, that's 100 million in revenue. You also have all the Call of Duties selling quite a lot at 50 dollars.

In order for the average amount paid per game to be less than 10 dollars a game, there would have to be sold 10 million games at 1 dollar each, just to even out Skyrim.

It's possible to only buy games very cheaply through Steam, but that's not really the norm. And they'd have to outnumber the other people by a ridiculous amount in order for the average amount paid per game to be less than 10 dollars.

 Or some anecdotal evidence of that, here's the games I've bought on Steam. The Orange Box (30-40 dollars), Left 4 Dead 2 (30 dollars), Skyrim (60 dollars?) Portal 2 (20 dollars), Oblivion GOTY edition (40 dollars).  

I think saying 1-5 games for 50 dollars is perfectly fine for the vast majority of people.



Personally I have 19 individual titles on Steam, and I only spent £16 in total.

I don't really think the 19 titles count as 19 games though, if you combine Half-Life: Deathmatch with the main game for example, and also combine HL2 Ep 1 and 2 together.... then I would say I only have 11 games. Still less than £1.50 on average.



bouzane said:
Scoobes said:
Pineapple said:

While the 40 million are all the total accounts, there's a huge amount of active ones. It's peaked at 5 million concurrent users, and trends at averaging over 3 million users at any given time.

If you say the average Steam user is online 6 hours a day, that's 12 million people online each day. 
If you say the average Steam user is online 4 hours a day, that's 18 million people online each day.

You could also use the fact that Steam generates 2 billion in revenue (or so. It was 1 billion in 2010 (http://pixelsmashers.com/?p=7412) and has seen a 100% increase in games sold). That's 50 dollars a person. Or well, a bit more than 50 dollars a person, as not all of the 40 million people were there at the start of 2011. Let's compare that to the Ps3.

The Ps3 sold around 125 million games in 2011 - according to VGChartz - on 46 million accounts. That's 2.7 games a person. I'm not sure how much the average Ps3 game costs, but it's bound to be more than 18 dollars.

As such, the average Steam user buys fewer games than the average Ps3 owner. That could be down to a load of things, but it does give a point in the direction that there are more inactive steam accounts than unused Playstion 3s.

Considerring how cheap games are during the sales, you could probably buy anywhere between 1-5 games on $50. Also, some people buy games at retail that then require Steam (e.g. Skyrim). I doubt Valve would see much share from that if any. 


Only 1-5 games for $50?!? What service have you been using? I own 174 titles on Steam and I can remember the one time I spent more than $5 for a single game, Mass Effect 2 which was $6.74 IIRC.

Lol, course it's possible to own tonnes of games for very cheap. I bought Fallout New Vegas for £3.99 (About $5-6) plus Witcher 2 along with a couple of Indie games in the Seasonal sale, all for very cheap. However, a lot of people will still play full price to play a game on release so an average of 1-5 sounds reasonable.



I have 147 games on steam.

Most of which were under 5 bucks.

I've gifted quite a few games as well though.



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Kasz216 said:
I have 147 games on steam.

Most of which were under 5 bucks.

I've gifted quite a few games as well though.


Same here, but I doubt I have as much as you at this point. 



 

''Or some anecdotal evidence of that, here's the games I've bought on Steam. The Orange Box (30-40 dollars), Left 4 Dead 2 (30 dollars), Skyrim (60 dollars?) Portal 2 (20 dollars), Oblivion GOTY edition (40 dollars). ''

Yikes, you're paying far more than me. Why not just wait 6-12 months?



I just know I got Dead Space and Dead Space 2 for 10 bucks total, which is ridiculous..... You can't get used console games for that cheap ever, especially not these days when they do the online pass bullshit.



bouzane said:
''Or some anecdotal evidence of that, here's the games I've bought on Steam. The Orange Box (30-40 dollars), Left 4 Dead 2 (30 dollars), Skyrim (60 dollars?) Portal 2 (20 dollars), Oblivion GOTY edition (40 dollars). ''

Yikes, you're paying far more than me. Why not just wait 6-12 months?


I don't enjoy playing games alone. A very major part of enjoyment with games for me is playing together with other people in the same room (which is what I always do on all my consoles) or talking to a friend of mine about the game over Steam while playing it (which is what I do when playing on my laptop) . As it's more fun to talk about the game if we're both playing it, my enjoyment of PC games is far higher if I play it when a lot of my friends are playing it too.

And as I live in Norway, they're a steal at that price anyway. Mostly everything here is 50-100% pricier than in USA, and our salaries are a bit more than that, so it's not a major problem. Gaming is really a very cheap hobby to me compared to how much fun I get out of it, and thus it's not really important to shave off 20%.

It's just not worth the effort to save the money. I mean, I've played The Orange Box 1500 hours, L4D2 100-200 hours, Skyrim 100 hours (and probably going to play over 200 hours) and Oblivion 100 hours, so I'm at somewhere around 0.1 dollars an hour in costs of games.

I'll use the effort to save money elsewhere. In fact, I'd happily have paid a hundred dollars for either of those games.



Pineapple said:
bouzane said:
''Or some anecdotal evidence of that, here's the games I've bought on Steam. The Orange Box (30-40 dollars), Left 4 Dead 2 (30 dollars), Skyrim (60 dollars?) Portal 2 (20 dollars), Oblivion GOTY edition (40 dollars). ''

Yikes, you're paying far more than me. Why not just wait 6-12 months?


I don't enjoy playing games alone. A very major part of enjoyment with games for me is playing together with other people in the same room (which is what I always do on all my consoles) or talking to a friend of mine about the game over Steam while playing it (which is what I do when playing on my laptop) . As it's more fun to talk about the game if we're both playing it, my enjoyment of PC games is far higher if I play it when a lot of my friends are playing it too.

And as I live in Norway, they're a steal at that price anyway. Mostly everything here is 50-100% pricier than in USA, and our salaries are a bit more than that, so it's not a major problem. Gaming is really a very cheap hobby to me compared to how much fun I get out of it, and thus it's not really important to shave off 20%.

It's just not worth the effort to save the money. I mean, I've played The Orange Box 1500 hours, L4D2 100-200 hours, Skyrim 100 hours (and probably going to play over 200 hours) and Oblivion 100 hours, so I'm at somewhere around 0.1 dollars an hour in costs of games.

I'll use the effort to save money elsewhere. In fact, I'd happily have paid a hundred dollars for either of those games.


I guess price is not much of an issue when you sink that many hours into each game. Personally though, I save a lot more than 20% (Oblivion GOTY and Left4Dead 2 both cost $4.99 if I'm not mistaken).