So Reggie is channeling the spirt of Ken Kutaragi!

http://www.1up.com/news/ps3-job

The head of Sony games Ken Kutaragi said to Japanese economics publication Toyo Keizai today that Sony's PS3 strategy is "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

basic economics?? Things go up in price, ALL products do, thats the way of the world. YOu really think that this Wii U would cost the same as the WII did at launch?? That makes no damn sense. THe WIi was just a GC with motion controls attached to it, and even the motion tech was kinda cheap, of course it eas inexpensive. This thing is supposed to be more powerful than PS3 and has to transfer info to at least two tablets. Unless you want Ninty to sell at a loss they cant sell this thing too cheap, and how expensive is too expensive?? Cause 350 for a NEW console is not that bad. PS3 hit the sweet spot around 300

N64 and GC, maybe they didnt do as well because the PS products at the time were just THAT much better. and please it wasnt like they were really expensive either. SO i dont know what price has to do with those. 

How about some people have no personal or financial stakes in NINTY's affairs. Some people need to prioritize their lives, if Ninty shoots themselves in the foot, what difference does it make to you?? Dont mean nothing to me, cause they dont put food on my plate. Worst case scenerio, they get another ass kicking and they have survived those, so whatever. Why are they disrespecting customers, by trying to make a product thats not cheap?? WHat kinda logic is that. By that logic Prada, Ferrari any buisness that makes not so cheap products are disrespectful??

Exactly.  People keep pointing to the tablet in India that is selling for $35.  The only reason it's just $35 is because its being subsidized by the government.  When the subsidizing ends, it's going to cost $60.  And at that price, it's probably not that great of a tablet.  I doubt it could handle streaming video games without considerable lag.  It's case is probably a cheap generic one, so durablity and cost won't be that great.  The Wii U's controller, on the other hand, is going to be made from a better plastic, as well as being a custom mold, so its obviously going to cost more just for the casing. 

Have to laugh at his claim it won't have a processor, too.  All controllers have processors, otherwise it couldn't take button inputs and turn them into a signal to send to the console.  And the Wii U controller is going to be handling a wireless feed that needs to be turned into a video image on a 6.2" screen, as well as touchscreen and button inputs that need to be output to the Wii U at the same time.  So to do this without considerable lag, it will need a decent processor.  And if the rumors are true that the Wii U will be able to run certain apps seperate from the console, it will definitely have good processor, as well as some form of internal storage.  In short, the Wii U controller isn't going to be cheap.

Do you know what I mean by CPU? It's not a full on handheld. It's just a dummy controller that   streams from and to the console.

It doesn't have all the parts like CPU, GPU, RAM that a handheld/iPad would. It does not function on its' own. It just needs a transmitter for the high bandwith streaming. Similar to something like wireless HDMI

No, Im not taking number of components as my factor. Read it again. I'm saying devices like handhelds and iPads which work independently need CPU, RAM and such things to do their own processing. U-pad is just a dummy controller that is dependent on the console. All it needs to do is stream, it doesn't need all those parts.

I don't see how your XL point proves me wrong...

It's not the size of the screen, it's the image quality, resolution, touch capabilities, technology it uses.

Everything in the controller is mature tech available at reasonable costs, nothing cutting edge here, folks. This is technology that has been available for a while now.

This is sensible speculation made on GAF's Wii-U speculation thread. They're not pulled out of anyone's ass.

Nonsense. The web browser app was reportedly running independent of the base unit, on the tablet.  Of course, the tabled is not going to be nowhere as close as an ipad clone or "tablet" clone, but apparently it has enough computational power of its own to run some apps.

The console does the work for the tablet, do you understand that? As long as the console is on or in standby mode, the tablet can be used.

So, a game can be played on the controller screen  independently of  the TV screen but it's still the console that is processing the image, not the controller.

So, yeah you could just browse the web, watch videos or play   games on the controller with the TV off as long as the console is on or in standby.

 The controller is only going to show the images generated and processed by this hardware unit [console] - and sent from the hardware unit wirelessly. That's what Nintendo said.

well wii sure does deserve to live forever lol.

You miss the point of the tablet comparison, the Wii U controller and the Aakash tablet both share a 7-inch 800x480 resistive touchscreen but the Wii U controller doesn't have the CPU, RAM, Internal Flash Storage, SD Card slots and (many) other components that are required to make a functional tablet. Essentially, the Wii U controller is a much simpler device that should cost significantly less to manufacture than the Aakash tablet.

Whether or not the device makes for a good tablet or not is irrelevant. The point is that it demonstrates that the components required to make a device like the Wii U controller are not as expensive as some people suggest.

Another way to look at it is this, the Wii U controller could be seen as being similar to an XBox 360 or PS3 controller with the addition of a 7 inch resistive touch screen. While the addition of the touch screen may increase the manufacturing cost of these devices by 50% to 100% the cost of production of these devices have come down dramatically over the past couple of years; and the volume discounts Nintendo will (likely) be able to get could lower the cost even further. On top of this, being that the costs of these devices will (likely) continue to fall further in the near future, it is unlikely that Nintendo would need to turn a massive profit on day one to justify the cost; because the profit margin would continue to grow over time.

This isn't to say that the Wii U Tablet won't be the most expensive controller for a major console (it probably will be) but I think people who believe it will be (significantly) more expensive than $100 at retail are delusional.

Exactly the controller doesn't do any work and is not a stand alone tablet so won't have most of the expensive components inside it, the's no cpu or gpu inside it. So if they can make a tablet that costs 60 (which is the speculated price put forward earlier anyway) without government backing in India as someone put it then the controller minus the costly parts should be able to be even more cost effective, lol at the cheaper means less quality comments when a majority of products like clothes and electronics are manufactured for cheap in such countries.

Exactly and very well put, people are having trouble understanding it's not a tablet.