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sales2099 said:
While the WiiU will cost somewhere around $150-$200, its the tablet controllers that will be the biggest cost of the system.

Nintendo going core gamer and forgetting the mass market? That doesnt bode well. N64 and Gamecube proved Nintendo fanboys arent numerous enough to keep Nintendo in good business.


Iwata at E3 2011: With the Wii-U we are trying to make a console that appeals to both core gamers and casual gamers. This console will try to stike a balance between the two.

Deaf people: LOL. Nintendo is going for core  gamers and abandoning the casual market!!!

 

Also, The U-pad's components aren't going to cost, like, a $100 or more like some of you people seem to believe.

It'll be much cheaper to manufacture. About $40 - $60. The console  components is going to cost more than $200 to make, not somewhere around $150 - $200.

Also, stop calling people fanboys for absolutely no reason.



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"Also, The U-pad's components aren't going to cost, like, a $100 or more like some of you people seem to believe.
It'll be much cheaper to manufacture. About $40 - $60. The console components is going to cost more than $200 to make, not somewhere around $150 - $200."

Where did you get those numbers from? It seems as though you are engaging in your own wild speculation.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

I've read that some companies are making very basic tablets for dirt cheap around the prices he mentioned, now considering the U controller will have no processer and such and just stream I think he's on the ball here. The controller will have a camera, touch screen and probably a place for headsets to be plugged in but not much else as it's a wireless controller that just streams, people shouldn't think of ipads and so on as those have much more going in them.

As for the price of they hinted 250 which I think is a brillient price and makes sense as expensive for Nintendo is normally between 250-300, lol at the journalist saying he thinks it'll be 600 what's he smoking.



"I've read that some companies are making very basic tablets for dirt cheap around the prices he mentioned, now considering the U controller will have no processer and such and just stream I think he's on the ball here. The controller will have a camera, touch screen and probably a place for headsets to be plugged in but not much else as it's a wireless controller that just streams, people shouldn't think of ipads and so on as those have much more going in them."

"some companies" does NOT mean "every device". Durability and stability need to be maintained for this, and the low end stuff tends to not be good in that regard.

As for not having a processor, that's impossible. It has to accept a streaming signal and turn it into an image. That requires more than just a screen, receiver, and controller parts.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Wyrdness said:

.. now considering the U controller will have no processer and such and just stream I think he's on the ball here.

That is complete nonsense. Behind closed doors, Nintendo has apparently shown early apps that run on the tablet (a web browser was one of the aps).



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"Also, The U-pad's components aren't going to cost, like, a $100 or more like some of you people seem to believe.
It'll be much cheaper to manufacture. About $40 - $60. The console components is going to cost more than $200 to make, not somewhere around $150 - $200."

Where did you get those numbers from? It seems as though you are engaging in your own wild speculation.


More like sensible speculation.

People are just assuming they're expensive because they see how expensive tablets, particularly, ipads are despite their low production costs.

The U-pad  has tech much less advanced that what is in the Ipad. It doesn't even have any CPU and such things because it's the console that does  the   work.

It probably cost around $50 to produce and would retail at around $70/$80 if sold at retail seperately at launch.

The DS has more components than U-pad and Nintendo can sell those at a profit at $99. There isn't really anything in the U-pad that isn't mature, inexpensive tech. That's how Ninendo works after all.

That leaves $250 - 260 for the console assuming they'll take a small loss to begin with as Iwata said they might or a very small profit at launch.

I'm predicting a $300 price tag minimum (Since Iwata said it would be more expensive than what Wii launch at $250) and $350 maximum with the console, a U-pad, Wiimote and maybe a nunchuk too, plus some game demos like Wii had.

The Wii U pad won't add a $100 price to the console bundle.



Nintendo can try to scare off customers all they want, I'm still getting this thing next year and so should those that enjoyed the Wii.



drkohler said:
Wyrdness said:

.. now considering the U controller will have no processer and such and just stream I think he's on the ball here.

That is complete nonsense. Behind closed doors, Nintendo has apparently shown early apps that run on the tablet (a web browser was one of the aps).


The app is being run by the console not the controller the latter is just streaming it, it's been confirmed that the controller will have no processor and just stream and be used for inputs, the controller can't function by itself like a tablet the console is what runs everything.



Play4Fun said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Also, The U-pad's components aren't going to cost, like, a $100 or more like some of you people seem to believe.
It'll be much cheaper to manufacture. About $40 - $60. The console components is going to cost more than $200 to make, not somewhere around $150 - $200."

Where did you get those numbers from? It seems as though you are engaging in your own wild speculation.


More like sensible speculation.

People are just assuming they're expensive because they see how expensive tablets, particularly, ipads are despite their low production costs.

The U-pad  has tech much less advanced that what is in the Ipad. It doesn't even have any CPU(1) and such things because it's the console that does  the   work.

It probably cost around $50 to produce and would retail at around $70/$80 if sold at retail seperately at launch.

The DS has more components than U-pad and Nintendo can sell those at a profit at $99.(2) There isn't really anything in the U-pad that isn't mature, inexpensive tech. That's how Ninendo works after all.

That leaves $250 - 260 for the console assuming they'll take a small loss to begin with as Iwata said they might or a very small profit at launch.

I'm predicting a $300 price tag minimum (Since Iwata said it would be more expensive than what Wii launch at $250) and $350 maximum with the console, a U-pad, Wiimote and maybe a nunchuk too, plus some game demos like Wii had.

The Wii U pad won't add a $100 price to the console bundle.


There are other kinds of processors than a CPU. Again, this has to turn a streaming signal into an image. That requires some kind of processor.

2. You're taking number of components as your factor? Are you really that ignorant of how tech works? And I can already prove your claim wrong. The screen is closer to the XL, which costs a lot more, due to the expense of a larger screen, which this controller also has.

This is ignorant speculation, not sensible. You're just making assumptions that have no basis in reality. Larger screens cost more money. And this kind of screen needs a processor to make an image.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
"I've read that some companies are making very basic tablets for dirt cheap around the prices he mentioned, now considering the U controller will have no processer and such and just stream I think he's on the ball here. The controller will have a camera, touch screen and probably a place for headsets to be plugged in but not much else as it's a wireless controller that just streams, people shouldn't think of ipads and so on as those have much more going in them."

"some companies" does NOT mean "every device". Durability and stability need to be maintained for this, and the low end stuff tends to not be good in that regard.

As for not having a processor, that's impossible. It has to accept a streaming signal and turn it into an image. That requires more than just a screen, receiver, and controller parts.


Argue it all you like Nintendo themselves confirmed the controller has no processor in it, it's not a tablet like people call it but a controller utilizing a touch screen, the streaming can be done in the similar way a console tells a controller to rumble it's not as complex as people think. More then anything the console does all the work and just sends it to the controller.