Forums - General Discussion - What is it with all the Blu-Ray spammers lately?

Seriously, what the hell?  I know HDDVD vs. Blu Ray is a big topic this week, but what is it with all these sub-50 post members making near-identical posts along the lines of "Blu Ray is the future!  Shut up!"

Am I the only person who sees this?  What, are these people being paid off by Sony?  If they were making decent arguments (i.e., *arguments*), it would be another story.  If they were established posters with one-off bad posts, it would be another story.  But no.  It's people with less seniority than *me,* spamming up the forums with Blu Ray FUD.

You think Blu Ray is  the better format?  Fine.  You're allowed your opinion.  Don't be a dick about it, though.  Am I against Blu Ray?  Yeah.  I think it's ridiculous for a generic product such as a media disc to be as heavily branded as Blu Ray is becoming.  I'm not fond of HDDVD either, but they have the benefit of actually being generic at face value, even if they have brandings inherent in the disc.  I think there are far too many industries nowadays which should be commodity-based, but end up branded because someone chooses to push their weight around and drive all the generics out of the market. 

How the hell does somebody have a copyright on an industry standard when it's basically a turkey-shoot as to which format ends up standard?  Think about that for a second.

What is best for the industry?  GENERIC MEDIA STORAGE.  Make a disc with more space, and build a basic drive which can read it, then let the industry make modifications from there.  No special brands.  No fancy bullcrap that makes my basic drive needlessly more expensive.  No "close two doors to open a window" features. 

Generic storage.

*That* is an industry standard.



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It goes the other way too.....



 

It's been a long war, many are finally glad it looks like we have a winner. But yes, it is a bit much.



I didn't saw any blu ray thread for months....Only the last days when their was news about Warner going BR exclusive...

Uhm that is normal I think.






konnichiwa said:
I didn't saw any blu ray thread for months....Only the last days when their was news about Warner going BR exclusive...

Uhm that is normal I think.

 Thread are fine.  I expect those.  It's big news.  And the threads are (generally) being created by long-time posters whi have something relevant to say. 

The problem is that within those threads, one in five posts is from someone I've never even heard of before, saying something ignorant and annoying.



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Actually Ive seen most of those threads derailed by "wii is dominant" conversations.



 

 2008 end of year predictions:

PS3: 22M

360: 25M

wii: 40M

It's the biggest piece of industry news since the Activision Blizzard merger.

Although I agree that the "Blu-Ray Wins!" threads are pointless, it is quite clear that you don't really understand what you're talking about.

GENERIC MEDIA STORAGE? What is that supposed to mean, exactly? Standards have to be defined, and it is to the benefit of everybody to have a universal standard. Nobody wanted to engage in a format war, it was essentially just Sony and Microsoft butting heads over what exactly that standard should be.

And branding has nothing to do with it. Did you have the same problem with CDs? Or DVDs? They are brands too you know.

Also, from a technical standpoint, it is not "opinion" that Blu-Ray is better, it is fact. The only benefit that HD-DVD has is that it is cheaper to produce, but production costs barely even register at the retail level. The Blu-Ray hate is obviously a thinly veiled attack on Sony and the PS3, even though they are only one of many companies in the Blu-Ray Disc Association.



zackblue said:
Actually Ive seen most of those threads derailed by "wii is dominant" conversations.

  Bravo! And so true...



End of 2016 hardware sales:

Wii U: 15 million. PS4: 54 million. One: 30 million. 3DS: 64.8 million. PSVita: 15.2 million.

I want to make it clear: when I talk about brand, I mean something artificial. The "Blu" in Blu Ray is branding. Why not Blue Ray? Removing that "e" takes a product from generic (a disk that is read with a blue laser) to branded ("the future is blu!").

There were similar problems with CDs and DVDs, but they existed to a far lesser extent, lesser than with HDDVDs anyway. With something like a media disk, what should be advertised to consumers is the product it holds, not the physical medium. CDs were advertised because they held music. DVDs were advertised because they held video. The format war, Blu Ray more than HDDVD (who certainly isn't blameless either) has been working to turn this around. It pisses me off.



zackblue said:
Actually Ive seen most of those threads derailed by "wii is dominant" conversations.

 Actually, I've seen even more threads derailed by posts like that one. And this one.