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I don't see them winning in Europe, but you can't expect them to say otherwise.



Europe is NOT what VGC calls EMEAA

Just for clarification.

They arent THAT far behind when you just consider Europe. But yes I think he is talking about a long term aim rather than an immediate goal. Whose to say the nextbox wont win in Europe. I wouldnt bet against it thats for sure.



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First in Europe right Microsoft?How about we start from having if not everything at least a little close to what Usa Canada and the Uk get?Heck we even pay more than most of them!



hellraider said:
First in Europe right Microsoft?How about we start from having if not everything at least a little close to what Usa Canada and the Uk get?Heck we even pay more than most of them!

how is this different to any other company?



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Seece said:
Some key points

They plan to be #1 in Europe, by better focusing on different regions, spending a lot on advertising and not just concentrating on success in the countries they're successful in (UK, France ect) they say looking at Europe as one place like NA, is a naive move.

In regards to PS3 price cut, the reponse to moving down price a little was 'no' .. of course that could be bull.


Wasn't Microsoft intent with the Xbox 360 was to be number 1 worldwide to begin with?  And what about Nintendo?  Didn't they forget that they were also competing against them?  Microsoft = scared of the PS3 pricedrop.



kowenicki said:
Europe is NOT what VGC calls EMEAA

Just for clarification.

They arent THAT far behind when you just consider Europe. But yes I think he is talking about a long term aim rather than an immediate goal. Whose to say the nextbox wont win in Europe. I wouldnt bet against it thats for sure.


Well, Europe incl UK, is responsible for about half of the overall EMEAA lead PS3 has over 360. So it's still a substantial lead. And it's a bit old news but don't forget PS3 has been selling for a year less than 360. With equal time on market even in the UK the PS3 would come damn close to evening up the score.

I would certainly bet against nextbox being number 1 in Europe, especially given Wii U is going to have a year or more head start. However, I wouldn't make it a big bet, and I wouldn't put the odds too heavily against nextbox. 60/40 against I'd say. PS3 I'd say 55/45 against. Wii U I'd say 60/40 in favour. They all have a good shot at being number 1. But nextbox is the underdog.

Interesting what they're saying about Kinect. It's stark how different Kinect is performing in Europe compared to the Americas. Number 7 in the Americas this week. Not in the top 40 in Europe. It's definitely spin when talking about the success of Kinect driving sales growth in a Europe context. Because it ain't. In Americas he is totally right Kinect is really keeping 360 sales bouyant, amazingly so IMO.

As to price cut. I think MS are playing a wait and see game. But I think they will see the bottom drop out of 360 sales in Europe. And that will force a price cut on them. In the markets where 360 is strong it'll sustain sales. But elsewhere it'll go down hill. So unless they are happy to remain with good sales in only a few select markets and potentially poor sales in the rest a price cut will be essential by November. They won't have YoY growth without a price cut. Not now.



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LivingMetal said:
Seece said:
Some key points

They plan to be #1 in Europe, by better focusing on different regions, spending a lot on advertising and not just concentrating on success in the countries they're successful in (UK, France ect) they say looking at Europe as one place like NA, is a naive move.

In regards to PS3 price cut, the reponse to moving down price a little was 'no' .. of course that could be bull.


Wasn't Microsoft intent with the Xbox 360 was to be number 1 worldwide to begin with?  And what about Nintendo?  Didn't they forget that they were also competing against them?  Microsoft = scared of the PS3 pricedrop.

you have to be no1 in Europe to be no1 in the world?.... and no, they included Nintendo in that thinking.



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kowenicki said:
hellraider said:
First in Europe right Microsoft?How about we start from having if not everything at least a little close to what Usa Canada and the Uk get?Heck we even pay more than most of them!

how is this different to any other company?


PSN's offerings and whatever Nintendo's network offers is nowhere,nowhere near that chaotic different in each region as it is in Live.

 

You know that as a Greek xbox live (gold) user I don't have access to Xbox originals,indies and a big percentage of the DlCs,right?Not to mention services like last.fm(I am not mentioning netflix for example since this is no different to sony and nintendo)etc.Or promotions and other stuff like the recent rewards program.



hellraider said:
kowenicki said:
hellraider said:
First in Europe right Microsoft?How about we start from having if not everything at least a little close to what Usa Canada and the Uk get?Heck we even pay more than most of them!

how is this different to any other company?


PSN's offerings and whatever Nintendo's network offers is nowhere,nowhere near that chaotic different in each region as it is in Live.

 

You know that as a Greek xbox live (gold) user I don't have access to Xbox originals,indies and a big percentage of the DlCs,right?Not to mention services like last.fm(I am not mentioning netflix for example since this is no different to sony and nintendo)etc.Or promotions and other stuff like the recent rewards program.

How was I suppose know you were talking about LIVE?  I thought you were talking about hardware pricing.

I take it LIVE is now actually officially available in Greece, I know it didnt used to be...  so I presume it will be a building process and one which probably wont take off until nextbox.

As an aside... I think some of the content issues will have something to do with Greek infrastructure and Greek service providers as much as anything else.



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