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ssj12 said:
le_patriote said:
totalwar23 said:
ssj12 said:
honestly the Wii won the year..

Goes to the point that while one side may say the Wii won, the other half is going to argue that it's the 360.

I think the only thing that may be true is who lost 2007.

 


Yes,sony is the 2007 real looser...and maybe 2008 too!


wrong.. Sony and M$ are completely even. M$ sold more software, Sony more hardware.

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 07th Jan 2007 to 23rd Dec 2007:


ConsolePS3X360
Total
7,176,184
7,732,127

Hmm...

Systems owned: Nintendo 64, GameCube, Xbox 360, Atari 7800, Genesis, PlayStation, Dreamcast, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo DS.

Year-end predictions (April 6, 2008):

  • DS: 94 million (96.0)
  • Wii: 46 million (44.4)
  • PSP: 45 million (43.6)
  • X360: 27 million (27.3)
  • PS3: 24 million (19.4)
  • PS2: 124 million (123.7)
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agabara said:
ssj12 said:
le_patriote said:
totalwar23 said:
ssj12 said:
honestly the Wii won the year..

Goes to the point that while one side may say the Wii won, the other half is going to argue that it's the 360.

I think the only thing that may be true is who lost 2007.

 


Yes,sony is the 2007 real looser...and maybe 2008 too!


wrong.. Sony and M$ are completely even. M$ sold more software, Sony more hardware.

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 07th Jan 2007 to 23rd Dec 2007:


ConsolePS3X360
Total
7,176,184
7,732,127

Hmm...

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                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

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Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

ok people it's an opinion piece by the writer.. he's not a 'reporter' he's not 'reporting' anything, he's arguing a point based on what he sees as important observations and facts.

of course it will differ with everyone else's.



Sam Yikin said:
Did he honestly just say that XBLA was better than VC FOR GAME SELECTION because it has the original TMNT? Wow.

Uh, no, if I'm getting what he said correctly, he's saying that Xbox live is better because it took the original TMNT and then gave it online coop play.

Quite frankly I agree with him on this point. I don't believe it was enough to win 07, but if this trend continues, it could tip teh scales in later years. Nintendo has been severely lacking in updating older titles, there are a number of titles that could have benefited greatly from either allowing optional use of the wii remote for new styles of control, like Mario Kart 64 using the Wiimote as a steering wheel, and Zelda: OoT being updated to use the Wiimote similar to how Twilight Princess uses it. ANY multiplayer game shoudl be updated to allow you to coop with a friend online.

I approve of Microsoft doing this, and I really am dissapointed that nintendo hasn't already implemented this. 

 



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Wii won and and the PS3 and 360 lost, the 360 more so. The Wii managed to sell more in half the time than the 360 with two competing consoles. The 360 being the POS it is had a year with no competition and only managed to sell a little more than the PS3 which only had a few if any good games and two competitors.



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Well, great that guy enjoys his 360 so much but in addition to agreeing with Happy Squirrel's points I would just add an example of how that list isn't everything for every gamer (in this case this particular Wii/PC gamer):

Bioshock - on PC, played it, meh
Mass Effect - Probably be on the PC soon, but I'll give him this one
Assassin's Creed - meh
Crackdown - you mean the Halo 3 beta? meh to both
Guitar Hero II & III - same game, III is on the Wii, oh and meh
The Orange Box - on PC, looks interesting, don't have time
Halo 3 - probably be on PC soon, played it though I'll stick with CoD4 thank you
Forza 2 - meh
Skate - meh
Rock Band - meh
COD4 - on PC and is amazing, would never diminish it with dual analog though

It could be argued that it wasn't just his opinion but was objective, that is that the 360 had the best lineup for most gamers. However, I doubt that is even true. The only way we can tell what most "gamers" like is by sales and given the amount of software the DS moves I would say it had the most popular lineup. Anyways, this guy either just wrote a story about best games that was his opinion writ large or he wrote it as a hardcore gamer with the typical harcore gamer attitude that only their opinions matter in the video game world. 



Lost tears of Kain said:
whatever said:
This is kind of a good news/bad news situation for the 360. If it had all these wonderful games and yet struggled to hold off the PS3 for 2nd, what happens when the PS3 has many more games available.

The Wii had the best year unless you mostly enjoy shooters and sports games.

Thats absolutly no different for sony, they had to cut price twice to keep up, what happens when MS can cut price and they cant?

 


I agree that Sony is not in any better shape.  Just don't underestimate the 360 hardware problems.  Its what's kept me from getting one.  Until I'm sure the issue is resolved (with new chipset or a changed design), I'm not going to touch it.  Hopefully M$ learned its lesson this time and doesn't make the same mistake again.

 



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the legendary titles that nintendo has released needs to stay the way they are now!! it's already in history! even nintendo said it. they don't want to formula of these original games that came out on snes, nes, and n64!



Damn things have changed since 2009 began. Here are my new visions for the end of the generation.

 

Wii: 135 mil

Ps3: 85 mil

360: 60 mil

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fooflexible said:
Remember this wasn't about market share, sales, or business, this was what he felt was the best game system for gaming for 2007. And it's hard to not feel he's justified. 360 had a huge year, and if you like fps titles, then this probably was the best year ever for a system for shooters period. You had Bioshock and Orange Box for the two best single player experiences in fps gaming, and cod4 and Halo3 did the same for online. I also love Mass Effect one of my favorite games of all time, Assassin's Creed has been amazing too. I know that also a matter of opinion but thats alot of peoples opinion.

 He called it winning 2007 so yes it is about marketshare, sales and business. If he had called it "Calling it: 360 was the best console of 2007" I would totally agree with him as Kotaku is a hardcore site and 360 was the best console for hardcore gamers last year (Wii was for lapsed/casual/new gamers but they don't go and read Kotaku so it wouldn't matter).

You can't go and declare something and then to justify it apply the definition for something else. There is a serious problem between the title and the article as the article doesn't support the premise of the title and the title is wrong on the face of it (how is selling more than twice as many hardware units as your main competition losing the year to them?).

One could argue that the 360 won because it sold more software but given that it only did so because of the small install base of the Wii at the beginning of the year and that the Wii software sales momentum has clearly overtaken that of the 360 (Worldwide, not quite yet in NA) unlike the PS3 that barely exceeded 360 hardware in the last few months and who might not once the holiday sales effect wear off (or might but the point is it is not clear) it is a tie at best as even if 360 sold more this year it clearly lost its dominance of the worldwide software market.

BTW, Happy newyear everyone and sorry for any mistakes/spelling... I didn't catch. 

 



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agabara said:
ssj12 said:
 

wrong.. Sony and M$ are completely even. M$ sold more software, Sony more hardware.

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 07th Jan 2007 to 23rd Dec 2007:


ConsolePS3X360
Total
7,176,184
7,732,127

Hmm...

Just ignore ssj12.  He may be a mod, but he's just a blind P$3 fanboy with absolutely no grasp of the facts.



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