sapphi_snake said:
No kiddin'? |
I dont joke about religion and people's holy beliefs (unless they are satanists). And btw, you have my quote in your post :)
sapphi_snake said:
No kiddin'? |
I dont joke about religion and people's holy beliefs (unless they are satanists). And btw, you have my quote in your post :)
Farmageddon said:
Some believe we're just born and make all those concepts up as we go :P When it comes to a single world religion, I really, really, really don't see that happening (besides maybe on an "official" level). Only shot would be if that one religion was non-religious. I don't think even extreme supernatural intervention would change that. I mean, assuming they don't just wipe our minds. Also, Player1x3, I see your vision of humans is as if we're removed from nature, special. I think this kind of argument about human nature can't really be settled between people with a creationist view and people with a more naturalistic one. |
What? No I dont believe in creationism, I simply believe that we have free will and that we make our choices but in the end our choices make us(shamelessly stolen from Bioshock), they determine weather or not we are greedy, destrctive etc etc...
The world was more devided than it is now and there`s a "push" for unity at the expense of "individuality", so it could be easier to control the masses. And you know, Satan is the false light that many will follow as to feel empowered - one way or the other.
Prophecies have also existed to this day like the Marian apparitions - which people should carefuly read.
Player1x3 said:
You worhip a Goddess? So basiclly feministic version of Christianity (no pun or insult intended) ? That moral code exists in Christianity as well, only God gives it not Goddess lol |
The triple goddess is the most worshiped deity in Wicca, but we also worship the horned god (the celt god Cernunnos) and a lot of nature's sprites and forces.
Most moral codes in religions are similar in content, it's how they're put in practice that differs. And in that aspect, I found Wicca and it's practicioners to be much more respectful of the self, of the individual, of his/her own personal choices in every field of his/her life (as long as it doesn't harm anyone else) and the way he/she goes through the path of life.
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DélioPT said: The world was more devided than it is now and there`s a "push" for unity at the expense of "individuality", so it could be easier to control the masses. And you know, Satan is the false light that many will follow as to feel empowered - one way or the other. Prophecies have also existed to this day like the Marian apparitions - which people should carefuly read. |
Kinda ironic that you put it in those terms, when it was cristianity itself during the dark ages that almost destroyed the individuality for much easier control of the masses. The crusades, the inquisition, the witch trials, hundreds of thousands killed in the name of trying to annul everything that was different and that didn't mold itself by the christian thought and moral code.
Have a look at how humanity suffered a massive technological, ideological and even humanitarian downgrade after the fall of the Roman/Greek ideology and rise of the christian ideology. That is why I sincerely scoff at these kind of religious claims that the christian message is the one true message and that everything had been predicted and prophecized by them. Were christianity to have won over the scientific advance during the age of enlightment, we wouldn't have this conversation now.
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lestatdark said:
Kinda ironic that you put it in those terms, when it was cristianity itself during the dark ages that almost destroyed the individuality for much easier control of the masses. The crusades, the inquisition, the witch trials, hundreds of thousands killed in the name of trying to annul everything that was different and that didn't mold itself by the christian thought and moral code. |
Although many mistakes were made, if you keep always looking back, without looking at the path you are walking (now), you might stumble and fall because you did not see where you were walking.
DélioPT said:
Although many mistakes were made, if you keep always looking back, without looking at the path you are walking (now), you might stumble and fall because you did not see where you were walking. |
Oh trust me, the path i'm currently walking is the best one for me and for my loved ones. I've retained all my individuality and my own self without having to subject myself to dogmas.
What I do find curious is that you somehow criticize the "push for unity at the expense of the individuality" when that's one of the core dogmas and messages of christianity itself.
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I really don't see what's so bad about a unified world government. Just because one (presumably elected) government controls the world doesn't mean that the government is full of satanists and antichrists and that we are doomed to eternity in hell (besides which, isn't it God's job to stop that from happening?)
Naturally, with one unified global nation state, there would be a unified currency. A unified religion would be problematic, but I don't see that ever happening. Eventually people will realise that there are things that Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism and the rest just can't explain.
lestatdark said: Oh trust me, the path i'm currently walking is the best one for me and for my loved ones. I've retained all my individuality and my own self without having to subject myself to dogmas. |
Actually it`s not. It`s quite the opposite really. Loving others doesn`t come without loving yourself. And God is love. You also have free will to do what you want with your life aswell - although there are consequences for all your actions -, so there`s all the room for individuality and unity with God.
Those who have faith find themselves within God without ever losing oneself.
lestatdark said:
Kinda ironic that you put it in those terms, when it was cristianity itself during the dark ages that almost destroyed the individuality for much easier control of the masses. The crusades, the inquisition, the witch trials, hundreds of thousands killed in the name of trying to annul everything that was different and that didn't mold itself by the christian thought and moral code. |
It's disingenuous to say that Western Europe had a big fall because of the rise of Christianity, even though the Dark Ages coincided with it. The Church was pretty much the only vehicle keeping knowledge alive in the West (which gave them a monopoly on information that they later abused to an extent), so they deserve credit, as if the Church hadn't been around as an institution, most of that knowledge would have been lost (though it would have been reclaimed i suppose)
Plus the Church ended a few barbaric practices of pagan times. I'm not saying the Church is blameless in history, far from it, but it isn't responsible for the dark ages
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