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The law makers should be punished for trying to push victimless crime. IMO.



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Torillian said:
sapphi_snake said:
I'm curious though, what kind of person actually reads such material, if not a paedophile.


Well that depends what it was since all we know is that some guy at a customs office considered it child pornograpy, could just be some high school manga with a few risque scenes or it could be full on loli hentai.  If it's the second than yes he's a paedophile, but if he doesn't act out on his desires I see no reason he should be punushed for thinking whatever he wants long as the material wasn't made by exploiting children (which it wasn't) then the law shouldn't have a say.

But if it really was lolicon then shouldn't he be forced to at least see a psychiatrist. I mean, today he reads a lolicon mag, tomorrow he rapes a pre-schooler. It's not as if porn prevents people from commiting such crimes.



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sapphi_snake said:
I'm curious though, what kind of person actually reads such material, if not a paedophile.

*puts down his copy of highschool of the dead*


Wut? ehm they were attacked by zombies.. it's normal to lose a bit of clothes when you fight zombies..... wait.. their underage?




 

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NiKKoM said:
sapphi_snake said:
I'm curious though, what kind of person actually reads such material, if not a paedophile.

*puts down his copy of highschool of the dead*


Wut? ehm they were attacked by zombies.. it's normal to lose a bit of clothes when you fight zombies..... wait.. their underage?


Shouldn't you get banned for posting that pic? I mean, it is child pornography (wel not really, as those girls were clearly not prepubescent, but if they were underage it's still illegal).



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sapphi_snake said:
Torillian said:
sapphi_snake said:
I'm curious though, what kind of person actually reads such material, if not a paedophile.


Well that depends what it was since all we know is that some guy at a customs office considered it child pornograpy, could just be some high school manga with a few risque scenes or it could be full on loli hentai.  If it's the second than yes he's a paedophile, but if he doesn't act out on his desires I see no reason he should be punushed for thinking whatever he wants long as the material wasn't made by exploiting children (which it wasn't) then the law shouldn't have a say.

But if it really was lolicon then shouldn't he be forced to at least see a psychiatrist. I mean, today he reads a lolicon mag, tomorrow he rapes a pre-schooler. It's not as if porn prevents people from commiting such crimes.

Only if you assume that having such thoughts means he will definitely act them out in the future.  By that right every person that is into furries should go to counseling so they don't commit beastiality, or anyone with a rape fantasy should be on the sexual offenders list.  I know some would say that we could prevent crimes this way, but you can't punish people for what they fantasize about based on what you think they most likely will do in the future.  



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sapphi_snake said:
NiKKoM said:
sapphi_snake said:
I'm curious though, what kind of person actually reads such material, if not a paedophile.

*puts down his copy of highschool of the dead*


Wut? ehm they were attacked by zombies.. it's normal to lose a bit of clothes when you fight zombies..... wait.. their underage?


Shouldn't you get banned for posting that pic? I mean, it is child pornography (wel not really, as those girls were clearly not prepubescent, but if they were underage it's still illegal).


Wasn't pornographic, falls under the NSFW label.  Which has its own forum so I am going to edit that out for people who are at work browsing.  Sorry Nikko.



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Torillian said:
sapphi_snake said:
Torillian said:
sapphi_snake said:
I'm curious though, what kind of person actually reads such material, if not a paedophile.


Well that depends what it was since all we know is that some guy at a customs office considered it child pornograpy, could just be some high school manga with a few risque scenes or it could be full on loli hentai.  If it's the second than yes he's a paedophile, but if he doesn't act out on his desires I see no reason he should be punushed for thinking whatever he wants long as the material wasn't made by exploiting children (which it wasn't) then the law shouldn't have a say.

But if it really was lolicon then shouldn't he be forced to at least see a psychiatrist. I mean, today he reads a lolicon mag, tomorrow he rapes a pre-schooler. It's not as if porn prevents people from commiting such crimes.

Only if you assume that having such thoughts means he will definitely act them out in the future.  By that right every person that is into furries should go to counseling so they don't commit beastiality, or anyone with a rape fantasy should be on the sexual offenders list.  I know some would say that we could prevent crimes this way, but you can't punish people for what they fantasize about based on what you think they most likely will do in the future.  

Totally agree with you Torillian.  

Honestly, even if this person is facing one year, he will get nothing and be let go. Assuming nothing he has actually would be considered Child Pronography. 

I think this is another case of Customs Agents being dicks that they are (US and Canadian Bordering Crossing can be really annoying, since 2004ish).  



 

Torillian said:
sapphi_snake said:
Torillian said:
sapphi_snake said:
I'm curious though, what kind of person actually reads such material, if not a paedophile.


Well that depends what it was since all we know is that some guy at a customs office considered it child pornograpy, could just be some high school manga with a few risque scenes or it could be full on loli hentai.  If it's the second than yes he's a paedophile, but if he doesn't act out on his desires I see no reason he should be punushed for thinking whatever he wants long as the material wasn't made by exploiting children (which it wasn't) then the law shouldn't have a say.

But if it really was lolicon then shouldn't he be forced to at least see a psychiatrist. I mean, today he reads a lolicon mag, tomorrow he rapes a pre-schooler. It's not as if porn prevents people from commiting such crimes.

Only if you assume that having such thoughts means he will definitely act them out in the future.  By that right every person that is into furries should go to counseling so they don't commit beastiality, or anyone with a rape fantasy should be on the sexual offenders list.  I know some would say that we could prevent crimes this way, but you can't punish people for what they fantasize about based on what you think they most likely will do in the future.  

But if he does have sexual attraction towards small children, then he is a potential threat. Paedophilia is a mental diorder, and paedophiles generally don't think rationally, and make up bizarre excuses to justify their actions (things like "a person reaches full sexual maturity at the age of 5"). Heck, even the book Lolita presented a situation like that. Making this guy go to a psychiatrist isn't punishing him, it's helping him, and possibly saving a poor child in the future. Igf he really is sexually attracted to small children, then he'll eventually crack if he doesn't recieve help.



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"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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