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PizzaFaceGamer said:
thismeintiel said:
CaptainObvious said:

Sony,FOX,PBS,Amazon,Celebrities plus many more are getting hacked by these losers lately seems like the internet is being runned by anarchist. They'll keep doing this till everyone joins up and goes after them!

That and the government will start regulating the internet heavily.  Like I said in another thread, these hackers are so shortsighted.  So are their supporters.  If Sony ever went down, which I doubt it will, who's next?  Maybe MS or Nintendo, whichever company is next to make the "mistake" of ticking off the hackers in the process of protecting their interests.  To both groups, have fun til it lasts.

Sony won't go down but it's nice to see someone on this website willing to admit SONY'S attacking GEOHOT was a HUGE MISTAKE. 

Way to misinterpret my post.  I didn't say it was a mistake (hence the qoutations around the word), and never said it was a HUGE one.  Sony did what they felt was right for their company.  Doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, they have every right to do so.  The courts are the ones who are to decide what is right and what is wrong.  Of course, Geohot didn't allow the court to make a final verdict, as he settled beforehand.  But whatever was decided in that court should have been accepted by the hackers, or if they didn't agree, they could have done the mature thing and requested Geohot make an appeal.  Instead, they acted like children and tried to hurt Sony in their own way.  A way that has brought a public eye on this hacking situation and turned many against the hackers, even though they claimed to be doing it for the consumers.  I wouldn't be surprised if the government starts getting stricter with the internet.  And really, they should have been doing something earlier.  The internet should not be a place for people to just do whatever the Hell they wish, especially when it hurts other individuals.



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thismeintiel said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:
thismeintiel said:
CaptainObvious said:

Sony,FOX,PBS,Amazon,Celebrities plus many more are getting hacked by these losers lately seems like the internet is being runned by anarchist. They'll keep doing this till everyone joins up and goes after them!

That and the government will start regulating the internet heavily.  Like I said in another thread, these hackers are so shortsighted.  So are their supporters.  If Sony ever went down, which I doubt it will, who's next?  Maybe MS or Nintendo, whichever company is next to make the "mistake" of ticking off the hackers in the process of protecting their interests.  To both groups, have fun til it lasts.

Sony won't go down but it's nice to see someone on this website willing to admit SONY'S attacking GEOHOT was a HUGE MISTAKE. 

Way to misinterpret my post.  I didn't say it was a mistake (hence the qoutations around the word), and never said it was a HUGE one.  Sony did what they felt was right for their company.  Doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, they have every right to do so.  The courts are the ones who are to decide what is right and what is wrong.  Of course, Geohot didn't allow the court to make a final verdict, as he settled beforehand.  But whatever was decided in that court should have been accepted by the hackers, or if they didn't agree, they could have done the mature thing and requested Geohot make an appeal.  Instead, they acted like children and tried to hurt Sony in their own way.  A way that has brought a public eye on this hacking situation and turned many against the hackers, even though they claimed to be doing it for the consumers.  I wouldn't be surprised if the government starts getting stricter with the internet.  And really, they should have been doing something earlier.  The internet should not be a place for people to just do whatever the Hell they wish, especially when it hurts other individuals.


exactly right. what people need to realize is what sony did was not wrong. they were within their rights doing what they did. it does not give hackers a right to fuck with them. the hackers are the wrong ones. the court system is in place to protect all parties. the consumer rights and the business' property.  sony didn't cause any issues among geohot...



PizzaFaceGamer said:
UltimateUnknown said:

At this point I don't think Sony gives a fuck about all these hackers. I don't think they can get any more bad media even if they get hacked to the ground either.

Hack away and take what you can hackers, not that you will get anything useful in the first place.


These are the types of ignorant quotes that do a disservice to rational & logical disussion

How  about readingthis UltimateUnknown.....

http://saveandquitgaming.com/sony-loses-2-08-billion-dollars-since-psn-outage/

Sony’s Stock Drops 2.08 Billion Dollars Since PSN Outage

Who knew being hacked and losing all user account information worldwide is bad for business? Apparently gamers aren’t the only ones who are pissed off about the PSN outage; stock holders have been selling their shares like hotcakes. I recently was given a quick lesson in economics that I will now share with you (keep in mind these are quick approximate numbers and calculations). The market cap for Sony is at 28.19 billion, the last traded price was at $28.06 per share. By dividing the market cap by the last traded price you can figure out the total shares outstanding which is roughly 1.004 billion. The closing trading price on 4/20 was 30.14 per share. The closing trading price on 5/6 was 28.06 per share. If you subtract the two you get a 2.08 stock loss. If you take the 2.08 stock loss and times it by the total shares outstanding of 1.004 billion you therefore get 2.08 billion dollars in lost stock profits.

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You don't think sony cares about stock prices dropping off a cliff??

Today's sony share price is down to $26.54 so sony has lost MORE THAN 4 BILLION dollars in stock price alone since the original security failure

And this doesn't include  the 170 million dollar PSN loss

I meant that comment as a joke.

But yes, stock prices going down was expected after such a big scandal, but didn't really anticipate 4 billion in loses in about a month.

Nonetheless, I am almost willing to bet, all the other divisions of Sony that have gotten hacked were probably using similar security to what the Playstation had. At this point, Sony should anticipate hack attacks on any and all divisions and upgrade to the latest security as they did to the Playstation network, not wait it out to upgrade until they are under attack. Otherwise, they really can't say they didn't see it coming when they go bankrupt (probably won't go bankrupt, but take even major hits to stocks).



 

psrock said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:
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Sadly civil discussions and rational thought are a rarity of feats in online discussion boards.  Far too many people use the witless, pop in, nonsensical chatter and say nothing of value.  Intellectual impotence pervades the majority of banter here. 

But I don't want to go off topic.  Dodece, you are correct...once again, I know it's beginning to sound cliche but the truth is like pleasant frangrance among trash.  You delve into perspectives most have never dreamed of and it makes this community a better place.

cicil disscussion? rational thought? coming from you.

You spend all day long looking for ways to bash Sony. What rational thinking do you bring to the table, every post I read from you, a piece of me die in the inside. 

Incorrect, he spent HALF of the day looking for ways to bash Sony.

He spent the other half of the day reading through a dictionary to cover up the fact he talks complete rubbish, and people STILL don't listen to him.



UltimateUnknown said:

I meant that comment as a joke.

But yes, stock prices going down was expected after such a big scandal, but didn't really anticipate 4 billion in loses in about a month.

Nonetheless, I am almost willing to bet, all the other divisions of Sony that have gotten hacked were probably using similar security to what the Playstation had. At this point, Sony should anticipate hack attacks on any and all divisions and upgrade to the latest security as they did to the Playstation network, not wait it out to upgrade until they are under attack. Otherwise, they really can't say they didn't see it coming when they go bankrupt (probably won't go bankrupt, but take even major hits to stocks).

Im pretty sure they does anticipate, they probably just dont have the means to do everything at once. Maybe they should shut down all unupdated server until they are though. In any case, its sad to see the share dropping, Sony is extremely devoted to gaming.



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brendude13 said:
psrock said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:
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Sadly civil discussions and rational thought are a rarity of feats in online discussion boards.  Far too many people use the witless, pop in, nonsensical chatter and say nothing of value.  Intellectual impotence pervades the majority of banter here. 

But I don't want to go off topic.  Dodece, you are correct...once again, I know it's beginning to sound cliche but the truth is like pleasant frangrance among trash.  You delve into perspectives most have never dreamed of and it makes this community a better place.

cicil disscussion? rational thought? coming from you.

You spend all day long looking for ways to bash Sony. What rational thinking do you bring to the table, every post I read from you, a piece of me die in the inside. 

Incorrect, he spent HALF of the day looking for ways to bash Sony.

He spent the other half of the day reading through a dictionary to cover up the fact he talks complete rubbish, and people STILL don't listen to him.

Hey man leave the pizza dude alone, he just lacks a sense of humour. Can't find that in the dictionary unfortunately.



 

Just to clarify. phishing is not a hack. It's like fishing, the scammer weasel the info out of the user.

So, let's say, you give me your login because I tricked you into giving to me. Then I login to your account and do malicious things. That isn't hacking.



SQL injection? No encryption? Not that I support them, but thst is some bad security...



routsounmanman said:

SQL injection? No encryption? Not that I support them, but thst is some bad security...

But by saying Sony have bad security equates to supporting the hackers as some here say.

That makes you a bad person.



Galaki said:
routsounmanman said:

SQL injection? No encryption? Not that I support them, but thst is some bad security...

But by saying Sony have bad security equates to supporting the hackers as some here say.

That makes you a bad person.


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