I dunno, is that a normal decline for a $150 peripheral? You're comparing it to much cheaper products. All I can tell you is its one of the best selling items of the year and I expect a huge boost this coming holiday. Its also moving a ton of software by the way.

All you're showing me is Nintendo was wrong. It would have definitely fit with Wii's audience (Wii fans love party, exercise, and dance games) and MS was able to make it reasonably priced. Nintendo could have done amazing things if it were used with Wiimote as well.

Iwata wasn't fit for Kinect. Simple as that.

General society has the concept that a game with childish characters is not "hardcore" and is more appealing towards the casual and/or younger gaming crowd.  While some may immediately interpret this into also meaning the game is stupid, that isn't the case at all.  These can be very fun games to play (LittleBigPlanet for instance was an extremely fun experience). 

I'm not sure about you, but when I was eight years old, I would have wanted Kinectimals 100 times over before getting Uncharted or Killzone.  Simply put, it would have been much much more appealing to me.  Just like Mario Kart 64, Donkey Kong 64, and Starfox 64 were more appealing to me.  Now, I'm not saying any of these games are either "casual" or "hardcore," I'm saying the overall graphical theme of the game really did make them more appealing to me as a child.

The only thing to decline as fast as kinect is the 32x but thats a add on .  Also the top selling software is Kinect sports,Dance central together they are about 5 million and with kinectimals and joy ride is about 2 million which about 7 million  anymore I miss? These numbers give the ratio that their is actually people who didn't buy a extra game with kinect. Since 10 million own one which is 0.70 ratio. 

I think you misinterpret what mean it by mistake is that it won't help wii longterm. Going by sales now it seems nintendo was right. Though if you look at only the holiday season it looks like a mistake

Hilarious... comparing it to 32X.

According to some recent articles about Kinect sales, they've sold over 10 million units software (excluding Kinect Adventures). Ofcourse people will add more Kinect games to their collection as software prices drop. We can also expect a big software sales boost during the holidays.

Speaking of decline, the Wii has take a huge one. YoY the Wii has plummeted. If you wanna piss and moan about sales decline that's worth your attention.

I can't be bothered to read through 5 pages of flamebait in order to glean the general opinion and what has already been mentioned, I'll leave my opinion on this however.

  Those who claim that "hardcore" are responsible for success of a console are sadly mistaken, no need to look further than the Wii, one of the biggest success stories in the industry, and thanks to what? The appeal to casual audience. "Hardcore" gaming is overrated, and most of the time those that keep chiming in regards to it being an important part of the industry are just deluding themselves.

Kinect aims at casual audience, and it does so thoroughly. I don't play games such as Wii music etc - the games considered casual, but I do tend to dabble in Just Dance etc, but my library mainly consists of FPS, RPGs and Strategy games, does that mean I am a casual now? I am not a big part of the market I don't think, but even games like JD which are aimed at casuals appeal to me.

It's a waiting game, expecting amazing software less than a year after the launch of peripheral is just stupid and another excuse some people use to discredit a popular product, I guess hating on Apple is so last year now that Kinect is out. If by this time next year there is no software that could be considered "hardcore" or no supposedly good software at all, then I think we can come to the conclusion that MS flopped the product, but until then, it's just a load of baseless opinions.


"Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one"

I do not think Id go with passing up on it as making a "Mistake"

Id go with more of Microsoft making a good "Decision"

Think where MS would be right now if they had NOT gone with Kinect. I think that has more bearing than Sony and Nintendo deciding not to invest in this particular type of Hardware.

The biggest mistake in Gaming is owned by Nintendo for how they handled their deal with Sony at CES in 1991.

Kinda agreed, partnership of those both companies would have meant domination of the market even to the present day, however I think Nintendo done well for themselves either way - in both the handheld and the home console market. Wii is the market leader, DS was the market leader. 3DS success is yet to be determined, but they're still making A LOT of money.

Maybe they both saw that it wasnt the best technology for controlling games. So no I wouldnt say its the biggest mistake in gaming. That probably belongs to Atari.

Comparing kinect to the 32x is not the worst idea as both was intended to sell systems here is what I mean 

"When the 32X was released in November 1994, the demand was so high that Segacouldn't fulfill all of the one million orders retailers had made for the system. By January 1995, Sega had shipped 600,000 units. " Link

The 32x was sold out back in its first holiday seaon just like kinect .Fast-forward a year and this was its fate

"In early 1996 Sega, acknowledged it had promised more than it could deliver for the 32X.Sega would be dropping it from production to focus their efforts on the Saturn system. Prices were slashed for the 32X and the remaining units eventually sold for $19.99." -Link is the same as before

Eventually the system stopped selling and sega was unable to stop it due to software issues and next generation coming. So unless kinect gets some system sellers don't expect it to get far. The only difference between the 32x and kinect is how much they sold but they have smilier trends however. 

Kinect's software ratio is still small and is only just over 1.00 ratio. Its poor compared to consoles but excellent compared to something like the balance board. So whether its selling lots is however you like to compare to. Also kinect getting big titles for this holiday season? Sure since its best to leave this part alone I believe their won't be but if I'm wrong then I'll happily eat my words. 

You make it sound like they're almost as successful as each other when that isn't the case at all.  One is actually helping to sell a lot of systems, the other is a half-assed attempt and a wasted opportunity.