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psrock said:
Beuli2 said:
psrock said:
Beuli2 said:
psrock said:
Beuli2 said:

I still don't think that'll be enough to save the NGP.


How many bans do you have left? 

Not many. Well, I just don't think the NGP will do well, despite the internet going crazy for dual analog sticks and PS3 ports. While a low price is a good thing (relatively to what they were talking, because $250 plus is far from what I find ideal for a handheld), I don't think it will be priced at that and even if it did it wouldn't make it sell really good.

what's the definition of not doing well, Dreamcast? Xbox? PSP Go? 

Not selling over 135 millions. My answer doesn't matter, sucess to me can mean a failure to you. And for me, sucess would be selling above the PSP, which I don't think it will.

So would 3ds selling less than the DS a failure to you?

Won't you stop annoying me? Geez. Go bother someone else in another thread. Yes, in my sense the 3DS will fail in that sense if thats what you want. It won't further expand gaming either and will only sell mosttly to the core niche, prety much like the PSP, although some games like Mario Kart, nintendogs and NSMB 3DS will make some other audiences buy it. Oh, I shouldn't have answered this, because you'll problably come with another thing like "The the 3DS should have sold 160 millions to be a sucess? Bulshit, what an idiot you are Beuli2 har har!"



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Tridrakious said:
Beuli2 said:
psrock said:
Beuli2 said:
psrock said:
Beuli2 said:

I still don't think that'll be enough to save the NGP.


How many bans do you have left? 

Not many. Well, I just don't think the NGP will do well, despite the internet going crazy for dual analog sticks and PS3 ports. While a low price is a good thing (relatively to what they were talking, because $250 plus is far from what I find ideal for a handheld), I don't think it will be priced at that and even if it did it wouldn't make it sell really good.

what's the definition of not doing well, Dreamcast? Xbox? PSP Go? 

Not selling over 135 millions. My answer doesn't matter, sucess to me can mean a failure to you. And for me, sucess would be selling above the PSP, which I don't think it will.

Really? 135 million units? So basically every platform has failed according to you.

It seems I should have typed 40 billions, maybe this way you could have detected the sarcasm.



Above: still the best game of the year.

irstupid said:
Seihyouken said:
irstupid said:

thats what it says $250 and $299?  lol yea right

and no not going to click on links.   not goign to give people my views

but i'm sorry its impossible to believe that the NGP based on what i have seen that it can be as cheap as $250.  What did the PSP's come out as?  how much was the PSP Go when released not to long ago?  So please tell me then how they can sell this for $250?  What are they planning on losing a fortune for each system sold?

So basically what you're saying is that NGP is going to cost more for Sony to manufacture than a PS3 despite having lower specs, significantly less hardware material, and being much smaller and cheaper to ship in mass quantities.

It sounds to me like you simply aren't familiar with how much things cost.

quick though process.  the psp go came out what $250?

is that not smaller by a long shot than this?  is that not WAY behind in features and graphics and touch screens and you name it? 

and that was not too long ago at all.  i would laugh my ass off if this came out at $250.

how abotu we also look at sony's track record.  Not ONE system has ever came out for less than $300 when first released.  With seeing how all tech sites seem to be wanting to throw teh ngp the tech award of the year already, how can you honestly believe that this amazing piece of hardware will be their cheapest system EVER.

 

Oh and lets not ignore Sony as a corporation.  EVERY single product they have is the expensive product.  They are never the mass market priced.  Their TV's, Stereos, you name it are always the upper end priced ones. 

.....the PSP did.....



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irstupid said:
Seihyouken said:
irstupid said:

thats what it says $250 and $299?  lol yea right

and no not going to click on links.   not goign to give people my views

but i'm sorry its impossible to believe that the NGP based on what i have seen that it can be as cheap as $250.  What did the PSP's come out as?  how much was the PSP Go when released not to long ago?  So please tell me then how they can sell this for $250?  What are they planning on losing a fortune for each system sold?

So basically what you're saying is that NGP is going to cost more for Sony to manufacture than a PS3 despite having lower specs, significantly less hardware material, and being much smaller and cheaper to ship in mass quantities.

It sounds to me like you simply aren't familiar with how much things cost.

quick though process.  the psp go came out what $250?

is that not smaller by a long shot than this?  is that not WAY behind in features and graphics and touch screens and you name it? 

and that was not too long ago at all.  i would laugh my ass off if this came out at $250.

how abotu we also look at sony's track record.  Not ONE system has ever came out for less than $300 when first released.  With seeing how all tech sites seem to be wanting to throw teh ngp the tech award of the year already, how can you honestly believe that this amazing piece of hardware will be their cheapest system EVER.

 

Oh and lets not ignore Sony as a corporation.  EVERY single product they have is the expensive product.  They are never the mass market priced.  Their TV's, Stereos, you name it are always the upper end priced ones. 

Come again? The original PSP as well as the massively inflated PSP Go both released at $250. You're untrue blanket statement that all Sony devices and systems are expensive and more than $300 can be countered by the fact that Sony has never released a handheld system for more than $250. Also you aren't seriously using the PSP Go price as a guage for NGP I hope. The Go's price was marked up considerably since it doesn't use physical media. Sony and retailers probably earn over $100 of profit off of the device, hense why its sales are utterly, utterly dismal. Sony has already stated that they will be selling the NGP at a loss so unless the system has some technology that we haven't been told about, $300 should be the maximum price we see for the Wi-Fi only model and $250-$280 isn't unbelievable at all really.



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trent44 said:

The PSP is the 7th most popular system ever made.

The NGP, as its successor, is possibly launching at the same price $249.99 as the first psp.

Nintendo's competing product is at price parity this time rather than $100 less; and, aside from 3D it certainly offers less hardware for the same price.

Considering the enthusiasm the developers have for the NGP (for its potential for a unique handheld experience and easy of making games for it), it is certainly going to have a larger and more diverse game library than the original PSP.

There is no way, within logic or reason, the NGP would not outsell the original PSP.

However, if they price it at 250 do you think they are selling each system at a loss?  Sony really needs to wake up and learn to not sell systems at a loss.  That model only works sometimes (mainly when own 60-80% of the market).  If they continue to keep releasing systems at a loss in the hopes of making it up over time they are setting themselves up to lose countless billions. 



Beuli2 said:
psrock said:
Beuli2 said:

I still don't think that'll be enough to save the NGP.


How many bans do you have left? 

Not many. Well, I just don't think the NGP will do well, despite the internet going crazy for dual analog sticks and PS3 ports. While a low price is a good thing (relatively to what they were talking, because $250 plus is far from what I find ideal for a handheld), I don't think it will be priced at that and even if it did it wouldn't make it sell really good.

what ps3 ports are you talking about exactly?

OT: Too good to be true :S keep it at or below 350 sony...and I'll get one



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irstupid said:
Seihyouken said:
irstupid said:

thats what it says $250 and $299? lol yea right

and no not going to click on links. not goign to give people my views

but i'm sorry its impossible to believe that the NGP based on what i have seen that it can be as cheap as $250. What did the PSP's come out as? how much was the PSP Go when released not to long ago? So please tell me then how they can sell this for $250? What are they planning on losing a fortune for each system sold?

So basically what you're saying is that NGP is going to cost more for Sony to manufacture than a PS3 despite having lower specs, significantly less hardware material, and being much smaller and cheaper to ship in mass quantities.

It sounds to me like you simply aren't familiar with how much things cost.

quick though process. the psp go came out what $250?

is that not smaller by a long shot than this? is that not WAY behind in features and graphics and touch screens and you name it?

and that was not too long ago at all. i would laugh my ass off if this came out at $250.

how abotu we also look at sony's track record. Not ONE system has ever came out for less than $300 when first released. With seeing how all tech sites seem to be wanting to throw teh ngp the tech award of the year already, how can you honestly believe that this amazing piece of hardware will be their cheapest system EVER.

 

Oh and lets not ignore Sony as a corporation. EVERY single product they have is the expensive product. They are never the mass market priced. Their TV's, Stereos, you name it are always the upper end priced ones.



Well, considering Sony has already stated they will be taking a loss on the NGP and that their main focus during R&D was to competitively price it with the 3DS, I would say that $250-$280 price estimate is going to be fairly accurate.

How much of a loss they will be taking at that price point is still unknown; my guess is ~$100 loss per unit, but that is just a random guess.



The pricing seems way too good to be true, I'd wait for a more reliable source. Even with this price I would still probably go for the WiFi version for the battery's sake. Plus I don't need internet anywhere, if I want to game online then I'll use my PC or PS3.



sethnintendo said:
trent44 said:

The PSP is the 7th most popular system ever made.

The NGP, as its successor, is possibly launching at the same price $249.99 as the first psp.

Nintendo's competing product is at price parity this time rather than $100 less; and, aside from 3D it certainly offers less hardware for the same price.

Considering the enthusiasm the developers have for the NGP (for its potential for a unique handheld experience and easy of making games for it), it is certainly going to have a larger and more diverse game library than the original PSP.

There is no way, within logic or reason, the NGP would not outsell the original PSP.

However, if they price it at 250 do you think they are selling each system at a loss?  Sony really needs to wake up and learn to not sell systems at a loss.  That model only works sometimes (mainly when own 60-80% of the market).  If they continue to keep releasing systems at a loss in the hopes of making it up over time they are setting themselves up to lose countless billions. 

Dont forget that in PS3s case, the heavy losses was mainly to push blu ray. A risky strategy, I agree, but it wasnt solely on the thought they could earn it all back with their gaming division.