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It had a good Christmas but because the competition had an amazing Christmas it will always appear that it failed. Having said all that if you have a PS3 you need Move and for the 360 it is Kinect. Despite the amazing Christmas unless Kinect continues to pull in casuals this could certainly be a case of winning a battle but not the war.

 

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psmove would have done better if it had a $500m marketing campaign like kinect.

but im glad it didnt otherwise the hardcore games would have taken a hit (as demonstrated by xbox/kinect)



I think the reason MS fans is acting this way is because they know deep inside that with the Kinect success, unlike the Move, MS will be pushing Kinect games like crazy and pushing back the few core games they actually have. I actually think they are going 100% Kinect next Gen, how beautiful.



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thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
Cthulhu said:
kowenicki said:

Yeah beacuse the opposite number are way above that arent they?

Anyway.... I dont know how to gauge MOVE success any more.  It may be selling very well, but as long as its just an alternative control system then it is never going to drive major revenue beyond the peripheral itself.  Its actually becoming a rather pointless comparison

You are not worth a reply, but for once pls stop trolling anything sony related. Thank you

You arent worth a reply either... but...

please describe in what way my post is trolling...?  

stop being so defenseive, my post actually agrees with some aspewcts of the OP.  

 

So, in your words and using reverse logic, if Kinect just becomes an added feature (say to navigate menus or simple control within a game) in most of the games that use it within the next year or so, we won't be able to decide if it's a success or not, regardless of sales?  Hmm.  I'll keep that in mind.

no... you can go further... if that happens you can say it ISNT a success regardless of sales.

But it isnt going to happen...



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The Move is performing very well, relative to the PS3. Relative to the Xbox360 and Kinect or relative to the Wii, Move is severely underperforming.



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The OP seems to marginalize the actual success level of the Kinect. The Kinect did not "edge out" the move. In direct competition, it dominated it and continues to do so. The face that Move sold units was predetermined by the logo on the box. The Kinect is a runaway success that outsold estimates exponentially. That is why people have made such a bid deal about it.



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kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:

So, in your words and using reverse logic, if Kinect just becomes an added feature (say to navigate menus or simple control within a game) in most of the games that use it within the next year or so, we won't be able to decide if it's a success or not, regardless of sales?  Hmm.  I'll keep that in mind.

no... you can go further... if that happens you can say it ISNT a success regardless of sales.

But it isnt going to happen...

So the Move could go on and outsell Kinect in a year or 2, selling over 20 mil units WW, and it wouldn't be a success because 51% of the games for it use the Move and the DS3?  Wow, that's some crazy standards.

And you hope it won't happen to Kinect.  Only the future will tell.



I wish you guys would get over the marketing budget like the others do not have a budget. I am pretty sure we have gone over how this is long term and is actually similar to the sort of budget Nintendo put out.

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinect#Launch

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/microsoft_move_3gVmAyryJuD6px1dV7LeDP?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

http://123kinect.com/microsoft-spend-kinect-marketing/

It's likely some of the ad campaigns funded with those $500million are still running, but according to most articles written about it and based on MS itself's statements, that budget is for launch and will be spent in a quite short term, although it should be longer than just till Xmas.

And it's totally clear that this budget adds up with the usual Xmas 360 marketing, it's clearly stated that those $500million are for Kinect launch, not for anything else.

About Wii, its huge marketing effort this Xmas is evident, it did almost the same numbers than the previous one, despite lower results through the rest of 2010 compared to 2009.

But it's also evident that Sony did a smaller marketing effort than its competitors. And despite this, its Xmas 2010 was overall slightly better than Xmas 2009 anyway, although it had smaller weekly peaks. Having good results despite keeping a lower profile than competitors is surely a good sign.



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