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loves2splooge on 19 October 2010
d21lewis said:

I'm scared shitless, too.  My favorite genre is pretty much single player action adventures with high production values.  Are they dying now?  Both of these games are my cup of tea.  They did everything right, didn't they?  And yet nobody is buying them. Are we doomed to a future of rehashes and FPS's?  Alan Wake suffered like this too and I love that game.  Sucks that I'm in the minority.

I counted four that made the 2010 yearly chart in North America: God of War III, God of War Collection, Assassin's Creed II and Darksiders (may get bumped off by year's end though).

As you know, God of War (if it wasn't for all the marketing hype, God of War would be just seen as yet another hack n slash with violence and sex. The Ninja Gaidens and Bayonettas are too Japanese and don't have the marketing budget so they don't sell as well) and Assassin's Creed have obscene marketing budgets. Darksiders is the only real triumph there.

Shocking that Alan Wake isn't even on there. I doubt Castlevania and Enslaved will make it. It seems like you need a big marketing budget or some luck (Darksiders) in order to get people to buy a single-player action-adventure.

And yet people wonder why games like No More Heroes and Madworld sold what they did on the Wii. Well duh. You take a genre that is dying, put out low production values, don't market the game and it's not a surprise what's going to happen.



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EncodedNybble on 19 October 2010
patapon said:

I don't buy this. I'd bet $20 and my mother that wallets are feeling the hurt right now from these sales.

Considering these two games had A. good marketing and B. good critical reception, yet still somehow managed to bomb... I am C. scared shitless for Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom and D. already preparing for mass murder for when I find out patapon 3 only sold 20 copies... all of which are mine.


Make that 21 copies as I'll grab one too



ZechsMerquise on 22 October 2010

Well, as I predicted, week 2 saw a big drop off for both Castlevania and Enslaved. Enslaved only managed around 20,000 copies this week on either consoles. Castlevania fared a little better, but overall numbers were grim for both titles.



pots555 on 22 October 2010
ZechsMerquise said:

Well, as I predicted, week 2 saw a big drop off for both Castlevania and Enslaved. Enslaved only managed around 20,000 copies this week on either consoles. Castlevania fared a little better, but overall numbers were grim for both titles.


You were correct.  I still think it's kind of dissapointing.



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Boutros on 22 October 2010

They're undertracked! ;..;



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alfredofroylan on 22 October 2010
Boutros said:

They're undertracked! ;..;

I fear the worst my friend



Rafux on 22 October 2010
loves2splooge said:
d21lewis said:

I'm scared shitless, too.  My favorite genre is pretty much single player action adventures with high production values.  Are they dying now?  Both of these games are my cup of tea.  They did everything right, didn't they?  And yet nobody is buying them. Are we doomed to a future of rehashes and FPS's?  Alan Wake suffered like this too and I love that game.  Sucks that I'm in the minority.

I counted four that made the 2010 yearly chart in North America: God of War III, God of War Collection, Assassin's Creed II and Darksiders (may get bumped off by year's end though).

As you know, God of War (if it wasn't for all the marketing hype, God of War would be just seen as yet another hack n slash with violence and sex. The Ninja Gaidens and Bayonettas are too Japanese and don't have the marketing budget so they don't sell as well) and Assassin's Creed have obscene marketing budgets. Darksiders is the only real triumph there.

Shocking that Alan Wake isn't even on there. I doubt Castlevania and Enslaved will make it. It seems like you need a big marketing budget or some luck (Darksiders) in order to get people to buy a single-player action-adventure.

And yet people wonder why games like No More Heroes and Madworld sold what they did on the Wii. Well duh. You take a genre that is dying, put out low production values, don't market the game and it's not a surprise what's going to happen.


God of War is pure marketing hype? Yea right it couldn't have sold just because its a great game end of the trilogy and a must have for PS3.



ZechsMerquise on 23 October 2010
pots555 said:
ZechsMerquise said:

Well, as I predicted, week 2 saw a big drop off for both Castlevania and Enslaved. Enslaved only managed around 20,000 copies this week on either consoles. Castlevania fared a little better, but overall numbers were grim for both titles.


You were correct.  I still think it's kind of dissapointing.

Agreed on both counts! :)

However there have been three relatively big releases that have bombed on the HD consoles over the last month, Enslaved, Castlevania and Front Mission. Three big games, big budgets and bad numbers, yet very little has been said in the gaming press about this.

People knock the Wii for poor third party numbers on core games, but when it happens on the HD systems very little is said. What's more, when a game like Madworld (with over 500k sales) or a game like HotD: Overkill (with over 700k sales) fail to reach a million units they do so with much reduced dev costs.

I would wager that the three games I have mentioned above will have left the devs well out of pocket.



FlyingLotus on 23 October 2010
ZechsMerquise said:

Yes, it should push 100k on the PS3, wouldn't do much for the 360 release however!


Well look at that it's 100k on the 360 now.



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

its been confirmed today that GT5 has a weather system, track editor and go karts! seriously i think this is going to be the best selling in the series even beating GT3 sales of 14 million plus!

Degausser on 23 October 2010
ZechsMerquise said:
pots555 said:
ZechsMerquise said:

Well, as I predicted, week 2 saw a big drop off for both Castlevania and Enslaved. Enslaved only managed around 20,000 copies this week on either consoles. Castlevania fared a little better, but overall numbers were grim for both titles.


You were correct.  I still think it's kind of dissapointing.

Agreed on both counts! :)

However there have been three relatively big releases that have bombed on the HD consoles over the last month, Enslaved, Castlevania and Front Mission. Three big games, big budgets and bad numbers, yet very little has been said in the gaming press about this.

People knock the Wii for poor third party numbers on core games, but when it happens on the HD systems very little is said. What's more, when a game like Madworld (with over 500k sales) or a game like HotD: Overkill (with over 700k sales) fail to reach a million units they do so with much reduced dev costs.

I would wager that the three games I have mentioned above will have left the devs well out of pocket.


 It's still too early to judge imo, I think Castlvania will be pushing 1.5 million sold to retailers by the end of the holidays and after Japan sales. It's hardly the most inspiring of sales but solid numbers non the less - albeit it depends how strong it's holiday sales are I guess.

 Enslaved will probably end up a bit in the red when alls said and done though. It's not rare for new IP's to be funded to do this though, so we might see a sequel still, just depends on how the numbers break down. Something I'm sure non of us can really estimate.

 There is a certain amount of media bias vs the Wii, some has foundations and some is just made up. It seems to have died nowadays this argument against the WIi, but probably just cause no one seems to bother putting any games like this on the system anymore 0_o. Something I definitely find odd.