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Booh! said:

Google "kinect port":

this is an updated article

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/the-new-xbox-360-kinect-port-up-close/


From that article:

"That means you'll only need one cord to set up a new Xbox Kinect system, while Xbox 360 original owners will have to connect over USB and plug in a separate power cord for the Kinect unit. And now you know."

They're still compatible.



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jarrod said:

Oh, I almost forgot... XBLA?  Where was Shadow Complex 2?

It was all about the top core titles, reminders of a few other things coming out, and also KInect.  No word about Game Room either and what other companies signed on.  Will expect to see other press conferences cover them.  Microsoft is all about Kinect now.



People still dont get how pricing works when you have existing product.

Cost to produce the existing Elite with 120GB HDD > Elite with 250GB HDD.
Cost to produce the existing Elite with 120GB HDD much > then new Slim with 250GB HDD and WiFi
Cost to produce the existing Arcade much > then a new Slim Arcade without HDD

So if you dont release the new Slim with HDD now you continue to produce a more expensive to produce console. Not smart.

If you release new Slim with 250GB HDD at fall price of say $249 then the current Elites need to go on sale to $199. Arcades to $99.99.  So you release Slim at current price and reduce the other older SKUs by $50

Later this summer when stock is cleared you introduce the Slim Arcade and Skim with Kinect SKUs and lower the price fo the Slim 250GB.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

thx1139 said:

People still dont get how pricing works when you have existing product.

Cost to produce the existing Elite with 120GB HDD > Elite with 250GB HDD.
Cost to produce the existing Elite with 120GB HDD much > then new Slim with 250GB HDD and WiFi
Cost to produce the existing Arcade much > then a new Slim Arcade without HDD

So if you dont release the new Slim with HDD now you continue to produce a more expensive to produce console. Not smart.

If you release new Slim with 250GB HDD at fall price of say $249 then the current Elites need to go on sale to $199. Arcades to $99.99.  So you release Slim at current price and reduce the other older SKUs by $50

Later this summer when stock is cleared you introduce the Slim Arcade and Skim with Kinect SKUs and lower the price fo the Slim 250GB.

And here is another scenario.

Elite unit comes with Kinect, while the Arcade unit doesn't.



Here's my take on the conference:

Bold: Great
Normal: Okay
Italicized: Not Appeased!

Call of Duty looks great, and has a less "Action Hero" feel that MW2 had.
Nice grab on the CoD content

The Slicing and dicing looks great in Metal Gear Solid: Rising
But will that be the only gameplay element? Hopefully there'll be more to it than that.
Gears looked great!
Apparently I missed the boat on Fable, because III really doesn't look like a must own experience.
And compared to Gears, Rising, and Black Ops, it's definitely not a looker.
Halo Reach was very pretty.
Space battles?! Totally awesome!
Exclusive game? From Crytek?! Here comes the trailer...
That didn't show us anything. Except blood.
ESPN using Kinect was great.
In fact, the whole interface using Kinect was probably the best part of the show. Looks great.
Kinectamals looked okay.
So did Kinect Sports
So did Joyride
YourShape, however, looks like it will be the kill app for Kinect. Great use of the peripheral.
Dance Central looked groovy when the lady was up there.
But the guy was cringe worthy. Expect gifs.
Star Wars had some neat Light Saber controls!
But it's on rails... and the movement was very clunky.
And why is there Storm Troopers on Naboo?
Kinect is launching on Nov. 4th!
No price? Really? Why wouldn't they announce the price point? Boo!
Xbox 360 Slim! Built in WiFi. 250 GB Hard drive!
And still for $299. Still... not bad. Wonder when it'll come out...
Now?!!



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I didn't watch one second of the show (I was playing Assassin's Creed 2) but it sounds like MS showed a lot of good 360  games innitially, then went on to showcase some diverse Kinect games that showed that the device worked (but copied Nintendo in every concievable way), and finished up with some new and impressive redesign.

I sense a lot of hate and maybe, when I watch the show, it will be justified.  On paper, it sounds pretty good.  Now, I gotta find those videos for MGS Rising, Halo Reach, and Gears of War 3!!!



noname2200 said:
Booh! said:

Google "kinect port":

this is an updated article

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/the-new-xbox-360-kinect-port-up-close/


From that article:

"That means you'll only need one cord to set up a new Xbox Kinect system, while Xbox 360 original owners will have to connect over USB and plug in a separate power cord for the Kinect unit. And now you know."

They're still compatible.

yea that aux port pinout's look to be 3

like some usb devices need two usb port's for it to power the device.

the orig. xbox360's can still use the same except they will need a external powersupply for the Kinect to plug into the wall. most likely anywhere from 5 to 9 volt's hell maybe even less. so it may not be that much power required to power Kinect.

which is great



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

i'm sorry... that was a joke of a press conference. I thought they were onto somehting really great with Natal, and instead they give the world;

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

EyePet (with bigger teeth)

and a PS3 without a blu-ray drive.

Is this for real?

[Edit: I liked the voice activation stuff, and Metal Gear Solid look good though]



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Smeags said:

Here's my take on the conference:

Bold: Great
Normal: Okay
Italicized: Not Appeased!

Call of Duty looks great, and has a less "Action Hero" feel that MW2 had.
Nice grab on the CoD content

The Slicing and dicing looks great in Metal Gear Solid: Rising
But will that be the only gameplay element? Hopefully there'll be more to it than that.
Gears looked great!
Apparently I missed the boat on Fable, because III really doesn't look like a must own experience.
And compared to Gears, Rising, and Black Ops, it's definitely not a looker.
Halo Reach was very pretty.
Space battles?! Totally awesome!
Exclusive game? From Crytek?! Here comes the trailer...
That didn't show us anything. Except blood.
ESPN using Kinect was great.
In fact, the whole interface using Kinect was probably the best part of the show. Looks great.
Kinectamals looked okay.
So did Kinect Sports
So did Joyride
YourShape, however, looks like it will be the kill app for Kinect. Great use of the peripheral.
Dance Central looked groovy when the lady was up there.
But the guy was cringe worthy. Expect gifs.
Star Wars had some neat Light Saber controls!
But it's on rails... and the movement was very clunky.
And why is there Storm Troopers on Naboo?
Kinect is launching on Nov. 4th!
No price? Really? Why wouldn't they announce the price point? Boo!
Xbox 360 Slim! Built in WiFi. 250 GB Hard drive!
And still for $299. Still... not bad. Wonder when it'll come out...
Now?!!

This site doesn't offer much difference between bold and normal text anymore: try underlining instead!



Kratos_36 said:
noname2200 said:
Kratos_36 said:

Stupid that Microsoft put's the new 360 in the market like that. No time to promote AT ALL. Sony builded up a giant hype to september when it released. Now they released it in a low selling season. Now not many people will buy it , and when the holiday season is here the hype will be over


The flip side of that was that Sony's sales plummeted for July and August as a result of the wait.  I believe NPD had the PS3 once again dipping below the PS2 for those months.  Microsoft understandably would prefer to avoid that.


Well your right about that. But I think Sony has a price-drop on it's sleve with could boost sales for the summer months and before the Holiday season they will release GT5 and some other nice AAA titels like Resistance 3 and LPB2. I don't think that Microsoft can take over Japan , just no way. Europe is slipping out of Microsoft's hands and with another price-cut and also GT5 wich has a huge fan-base in Europe it will only fall away even further. America has been Xbox minded since it release and won't be taken over by Sony. The only thing Sony can do with America is preventing from Microsoft to build up even more sales for Xbox. It's enough for Sony to take some sales away from Microsoft in America but it's critical for them to pull ahead in Europe and stay ahead in Japan and maybey then they will even be able to pull them selfs to second place.



i wouldn't be so sure about that Kratos_36.