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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L68aKVAzwQ4

u mean that?! no wonder its selling...



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PS3: 46 MIL (April Revision: 44 MIL, July Revision 43 MIL, Nov. Revision 45MIL)

360: 44 MIL (April Revision: 46 MIL, July Revision: 48 MIL, Nov. Revision 49MIL)

WII: 82 MIL (Apr. Revision: 84 MIL, Jul. Revision: 82 MIL, Nov. Revision: 82MIL)

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ameratsu said:
Bamboleo said:
Apple will need a lot more than iDevices to stop Nintendo.

 

Nobody mentioned Nintendo...  except you. How surprising.

Actually...

radha said:
kingofwale said:
unlike consoles or even Mac, iPad doesn't replace anything nor is effective in doing anything.

the survey said some costumes think they dont need a laptop/netbook/pc after getting a ipad, i think it could replace a Nintendo DS in th future.

 

My sister is getting one of these for her b-day and I don't understand what the big deal is with them. They cost enough to get a decent laptop, but it does less. It looks like it would be awkward to carry around, you can't put it in your pocket and it doesn't seem to be worthy enough for actual work or business to be done with when you could do 10X more work on an easy to use laptop.

And I doubt it will take the the gaming market, it is too expensive and people like buttons.



it's a nice slick device but it's very overpriced right now.
it can do a lot of things but I would rather use my kindle than an Ipad to read books for example ( the Ipad book collection display is really slick and much better than the kindle but I don't have to pay monthly 3g fees on my kindle and it's more practical and less tiring to actually read the books ( can't hold an Ipad in one hand for a long period of time for example).



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

disolitude said:
 


As a working man, I just can't think of spending the money they are asking on a device like this. This thing is 700 bucks here in Canada for a 16 GB 3G model. Now for that money you can buy a very good laptop that does much more. What are you going to do with 16 gigs?

So I really can't imagine the mass market welcoming this product with open arms... But I could be wrong.

It's true that you can do more with a laptop, but it's also bulkier, heavier, has a shorter battery life, and an interface that's designed for a desk. The software is designed to require more management and support of files, apps, windows, malware and troubleshooting. Some people don't know how to cope with all that hassle, and others can cope but would rather not.

Obviously, the iPad can't address everybody's needs. But for people who don't create much content on the go, it will do almost anything a netbook or laptop can do, and packs enough advantages while doing them to justify itself. There are even some people who think multitouch tablets are a threat to Windows:

Published on May 18, 2010 By Frogboy

I’m going to write more about this shortly but having had my iPad for about 3 weeks I have to say that the iPad and other devices like it are going to murder large sections of the Windows based market.

And as a Windows software developer, that doesn’t make me happy.

If you are producing “stuff” the Windows-centric world is still central.  But for everyone else who are consumers of content, these new devices are a huge threat.

It’s not the form factor per se. Not that it’s a “tablet”.  I’ll boil it down:

1. Instant on.  It just works. I want to check email, look at my schedule for the day, look at Facebook, view something on YouTube, check out some news headlines, or just watch a movie, the iPad (and future devices of its class) are just much more convenient.

I love my ThinkPad T400. But when I go to it, I have to pray whether it’ll come out of sleep. If it does come out of sleep, it’ll be slow. Maybe it will be out of batteries. Who knows. What I do know is that it’s far too slow as a consumer device.  Netbooks are even worse.  It seems like such a little thing – instant on. But it’s the difference between a DVR and a VCR in terms of leap of effective functionality.

2. Speed. Similar to #1, I can check my email, look at my various RSS feeds and scan my schedule in less than 30 seconds.  On a Windows based PC, I’d still be waiting for Outlook to get done doing its thing or dealing with some Windows update that came in during the night that rebooted my machine. (and yes, I know you can alter these settings but with Windows, Microsoft has made productivity the enemy and made all the defaults set to fight productivity). If I just want to check something out on Wikipedia or check a web page, nothing beats the speed of an iPad (or a future Android based tablet).

3. The App store.  I have downloaded (and paid for) a lot of $2.00 programs that are just amazing.  It’s not that you couldn’t make these on the PC, it’s just that people would scream that it should be free.  And as a developer, I can tell you, I won’t spend time making stuff “for free” when I could be spending that time with my kids unless it’s a labor of love.  As a result, a lot of cool little programs are being made because developers can actually get paid for making cool stuff.

Now, some of these things apply to an iPod Touch or an Android mobile device or an iPhone. But the form factor (size of the device) are key here in terms of usability. 

The 3 things I mention here are so outshine the Windows PC experience that if Microsoft doesn’t get off its duff and start addressing them soon then I predict Windows will become purely a content creation device whose content is primarily consumed elsewhere.  There’s really no excuse that in 2010, Windows is in the shape its in (particularly with regard to instant on). 

The iPad is only the beginning.  Once Android devices and WebOS devices show up, it could spell the beginning of the end of Windows dominance.

'Frogboy' is the CEO of Stardock.



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same reason iphone sales, it maybe subpar phone smartphone (had no multitasking for 3 years when smartphone ahve it since 2003 ) , but it sell cuz "omg shinyz animationz!"



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famousringo said:
disolitude said:
 


As a working man, I just can't think of spending the money they are asking on a device like this. This thing is 700 bucks here in Canada for a 16 GB 3G model. Now for that money you can buy a very good laptop that does much more. What are you going to do with 16 gigs?

So I really can't imagine the mass market welcoming this product with open arms... But I could be wrong.

It's true that you can do more with a laptop, but it's also bulkier, heavier, has a shorter battery life, and an interface that's designed for a desk. The software is designed to require more management and support of files, apps, windows, malware and troubleshooting. Some people don't know how to cope with all that hassle, and others can cope but would rather not.

Obviously, the iPad can't address everybody's needs. But for people who don't create much content on the go, it will do almost anything a netbook or laptop can do, and packs enough advantages while doing them to justify itself. There are even some people who think multitouch tablets are a threat to Windows:

Published on May 18, 2010 By Frogboy

I’m going to write more about this shortly but having had my iPad for about 3 weeks I have to say that the iPad and other devices like it are going to murder large sections of the Windows based market.

And as a Windows software developer, that doesn’t make me happy.

If you are producing “stuff” the Windows-centric world is still central.  But for everyone else who are consumers of content, these new devices are a huge threat.

It’s not the form factor per se. Not that it’s a “tablet”.  I’ll boil it down:

1. Instant on.  It just works. I want to check email, look at my schedule for the day, look at Facebook, view something on YouTube, check out some news headlines, or just watch a movie, the iPad (and future devices of its class) are just much more convenient.

I love my ThinkPad T400. But when I go to it, I have to pray whether it’ll come out of sleep. If it does come out of sleep, it’ll be slow. Maybe it will be out of batteries. Who knows. What I do know is that it’s far too slow as a consumer device.  Netbooks are even worse.  It seems like such a little thing – instant on. But it’s the difference between a DVR and a VCR in terms of leap of effective functionality.

2. Speed. Similar to #1, I can check my email, look at my various RSS feeds and scan my schedule in less than 30 seconds.  On a Windows based PC, I’d still be waiting for Outlook to get done doing its thing or dealing with some Windows update that came in during the night that rebooted my machine. (and yes, I know you can alter these settings but with Windows, Microsoft has made productivity the enemy and made all the defaults set to fight productivity). If I just want to check something out on Wikipedia or check a web page, nothing beats the speed of an iPad (or a future Android based tablet).

3. The App store.  I have downloaded (and paid for) a lot of $2.00 programs that are just amazing.  It’s not that you couldn’t make these on the PC, it’s just that people would scream that it should be free.  And as a developer, I can tell you, I won’t spend time making stuff “for free” when I could be spending that time with my kids unless it’s a labor of love.  As a result, a lot of cool little programs are being made because developers can actually get paid for making cool stuff.

Now, some of these things apply to an iPod Touch or an Android mobile device or an iPhone. But the form factor (size of the device) are key here in terms of usability. 

The 3 things I mention here are so outshine the Windows PC experience that if Microsoft doesn’t get off its duff and start addressing them soon then I predict Windows will become purely a content creation device whose content is primarily consumed elsewhere.  There’s really no excuse that in 2010, Windows is in the shape its in (particularly with regard to instant on). 

The iPad is only the beginning.  Once Android devices and WebOS devices show up, it could spell the beginning of the end of Windows dominance.

'Frogboy' is the CEO of Stardock.

 

 

When you do so little tasks (compared to a laptop) and are spoon fed features and programs through the app store...you better be fast and work flawlessly.

 

"On a Windows based PC, I’d still be waiting for Outlook to get done doing its thing or dealing with some Windows update that came in during the night that rebooted my machine."

I hate to burst his bubble, but Windows 7 is a pretty fast OS.

This article sounds like it was written by someone who couldn't understand how to do the most basic tasks on windows 98 (aka most Mac users) and has switched to the Mac ever since. His opinion of windows in ths article is probably based on Windows 98...



radha said:
disolitude said:
ameratsu said:
disolitude said:
How long do you think they can sustain these kinds of sales?

I mean the product is new, its hot...and the Apple user base will buy anything Apple. But once the stylish, artists and unemployed students get their Ipad fill...how will this thing sell?

Anybody?


I'm still waiting for this thing to show up in Canada so I can try it, but...

As an internet browsing device / email / media player it's probably a nice little device. It does ~90% of what people buy netbooks for, I just question how good the keyboard is relative to a netbook. I also think the iPad could gain popularity among older computer users who are frustrated with the clunky and excessively complicated Windows OS. An iPad is used in a different fashion than a netbook/laptop (tablet vs. clamshell) as well, and may gain some fans that way. You aren't being prudent enough disolitude if you think only artists and hipsters are buying ipads.


As a working man, I just can't think of spending the money they are asking on a device like this. This thing is 700 bucks here in Canada for a 16 GB 3G model. Now for that money you can buy a very good laptop that does much more. What are you going to do with 16 gigs?

So I really can't imagine the mass market welcoming this product with open arms... But I could be wrong.

is so expensive and it does less than a net book, i cant understand  why this sells so much

 

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disolitude said:

When you do so little tasks (compared to a laptop) and are spoon fed features and programs through the app store...you better be fast and work flawlessly.

 

"On a Windows based PC, I’d still be waiting for Outlook to get done doing its thing or dealing with some Windows update that came in during the night that rebooted my machine."

I hate to burst his bubble, but Windows 7 is a pretty fast OS.

This article sounds like it was written by someone who couldn't understand how to do the most basic tasks on windows 98 (aka most Mac users) and has switched to the Mac ever since. His opinion of windows in ths article is probably based on Windows 98...

This is the homepage of the company he runs:

http://www.stardock.com/



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

fastyxx said:
I find the Apple haters amusing. 3 years from now they will be talking about how their cloned knockoff copies are so great.

Apple has about as perfect a record as a company can have over the past decade. What's their only flop? AppleTV?

In the meantime they've reinvented music with the iPod and iTunes, reinvented the phone and pocket computing and changing the way we look at everyday activities with the iPhone and iPad. And oh yeah. They sell more laptops than anyone and have increased their marketshare in home computers, to the point that software companies and data providers are catering to their products in unheard of ways. All to almost universally good reviews, with great customer service (unless you need to deal with ATT&T), and a pretty strong reliability factor. When I needed Mac help due to my stupidity, I talked to a nice educated woman in Texas (i.e. NOT India).

All while maintaing a hip image and increasing profit in a terrible economy - - increasing company profits every year for at least the past 5, including a 33% increase last fiscal year as the economy imploded.

Yes. They should stop doing what they are doing. Clearly no market there.

Other than that, they are just one fail after another.

Just wondering if you have a link to backup the bolded part above?  Not saying you are wrong, I just can only find data that says you are.

 

This link doesn't even show Apple in the top 5 for notebook sales.. 
http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24800 

This link shows them in 7th overall - but the data is old 2007-2008 data
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/06/apple-ranks-7th-in-notebook-sales-worldwide.ars 

I would just be surprised if Apple sells more laptops than anyone, there are some big names like HP, Toshiba, etc.. Even with Dell's recent troubles I would imagine they have more market share than Apple.

Though I will give kudos to Jobs and Apple, they are a stock I wish I could go back in time to buy... moreso Google.. but well yeah...  



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I love all the Apple hate on this forum!! - Hey everyone, in the US the ipad is outselling the PS3, 360, Wii and PSP all together. What's that? can I see a tear in your eye? Aww.