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LordTheNightKnight said:
psrock said:
I don't mind the thread, but who is saying Heavy Rain is Oscar Worthy?

Not really much an "is", as "was". I saw it on comments on several sites around the launch. Although how much was viral marketers and how much was herd mentality isn't something I can answer.

it's nothing be offended by then, and so what, it's really different and tells a story like no ther game. Is it oscar worthy? no, but it will surely get some nomination for GOTY.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
In some ways, I kind of wish the game would just win an oscar. It would just show how pointless the whole thing is and how they're just handing out oscars to only the most hyped and flashy movies (and as a result games) out there. Not anything that deserves actual merit.

IE: Every single 'Animation' Award going to a CGI film and every 'Best Picture' film going to the most hyped and advertised movie of the year.

Sprited Away got the animation Oscar, so there it something.

And every year following, its been nothing but a 'pick the most popular and big budget CGI fest' award.  With most years, not even a single hand drawn piece of animation being nomminated.

I really don't hate CGI, but its pretty rediculous how bias the Academy Awards have become when they're only picking out the most popular or expensive movies to give an award to.

Fun fact, there has never been any hand drawn piece of animation to ever win an academy award aside from Spirited Away.  The only OTHER movie to win the academy award aside from a CG picture was Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were Rabbit (Clay Mation).  A wonderful movie don't get me wrong and I love it, but it only won THAT award most likely because no major CG movies were nomminated that year.

For reference of just how lopsided and bias the awards have become, here's a history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Animated_Feature



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I sure am, if Heavy Rain is is considered to have masterful writing by the gaming media and community, then our standards are low.

There are more than thirty games I can name that offer better writing and storytelling than Heavy Rain. Heavy Rain is seriously one of the most overrated game of our time, I can't believe I'm saying this because I hate the term overrated but it's true. It's riddled with millions of cliches and it's very corny.



Isn't Oscar Nomination an opinion? If an opinion about the quality of a product offends you, Then good luck when facing some Cold Hard facts....



It's a well written 10 hour long movie. I'll leave it at that.



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The overwhelming majority know full well how crappy Heavy Rain's script is and how much worse the voice work makes it.

Heavy Rain is praised for the way it immerses and engages you in its awful story. It's a great game. I know you hate it for no reason but it's been 3 months already. Get over it.



"I know you hate it for no reason"

Bull. I never stated I hated the game. I just point out the writing isn't that good and that beforehand some of the gameplay elements turned me off.

And even barring that, I've stated my reasons for disliking the story, so claiming no reason is a flat out lie.

So don't make a strawman of my position.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

I certainly would be offended if it won a Golden Bear at the Berlin film festival.



makingmusic476 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Well the dialogue from GTA4 is already Oscar-worthy, so if this dialogue is better than that, what else are we supposed to call it?

GTAIV has a 1,000 page script.  Heavy Rain's comes nowhere close.  GTA wins by default. 

HEAVY RAIN had a 2,000+ page script.

As for this thread, who cares? Someone's opinion of the game is just that, an opinion. The only comments towards a game that are offensive are either blatant lies or ignorant IMO.



                                                                                                             

Kenryoku_Maxis said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
In some ways, I kind of wish the game would just win an oscar. It would just show how pointless the whole thing is and how they're just handing out oscars to only the most hyped and flashy movies (and as a result games) out there. Not anything that deserves actual merit.

IE: Every single 'Animation' Award going to a CGI film and every 'Best Picture' film going to the most hyped and advertised movie of the year.

Sprited Away got the animation Oscar, so there it something.

And every year following, its been nothing but a 'pick the most popular and big budget CGI fest' award.  With most years, not even a single hand drawn piece of animation being nomminated.

I really don't hate CGI, but its pretty rediculous how bias the Academy Awards have become when they're only picking out the most popular or expensive movies to give an award to.

Fun fact, there has never been any hand drawn piece of animation to ever win an academy award aside from Spirited Away.  The only OTHER movie to win the academy award aside from a CG picture was Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were Rabbit (Clay Mation).  A wonderful movie don't get me wrong and I love it, but it only won THAT award most likely because no major CG movies were nomminated that year.

For reference of just how lopsided and bias the awards have become, here's a history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Animated_Feature

As much as I would like to blame it (solely) on the Academy, frankly, this has a lot to do with the lack of great traditional animated films produced in recent years. Outside of Japan, there really isn't a lot of effort put into this kind of filmmaking anymore - which is a terrible, terrible shame considering just how beautiful the art form is.

The bias against animation is quite bad historically, though, considering how many groundbreaking pictures were snubbed of even a nomination before the Best Animated Picture was introduced (and even then, it was mainly so that they wouldn't have to waste space on a potential animated film for best picture).