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the problem is neither is going anywhere cause ps3 will have games that the 360 dosnt and the 360 will have games the ps3 dosnt its just that simple SURE a slim xbox will solidify second place if it IS 100 dollars with good specs the WHO KNOWS it may close the 20 million gap with the wii (not) but lets be sure the ps3 isnt going anywhere



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The 360 is dying a drop of 13% in the marketshare yoy thats terrible. Will a Slim 360 have the capability of knocking the PS3 back down to its prior position? No not on its own I think that if Microsoft releases a new Slim bundled with Natal for only like 150$ or 199$ then I think Microsoft might be able to regain marketshare. However I don't think Microsoft can completely supress the PS3 like it used too. A cheaper hardware bundle with Natal and some kick ass software could rejuvinate Microsoft's market share but I can't see it taking down the PS3! Maybe Microsoft can hold off the PS3 and remain second place long enough for the next gen to start.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

A 360 slim at a low price point may have a good chance of putting the 360 ahead of the PS3 in terms of hardware sales. But the real issue is will it slow down the PS3's surging software sales? And the answer to that is I don't think it will.



How well does the 360 Arcade model sell anyway? The arcade is already pretty cheap, but I didn't want to go anywhere near that model when I purchased a 360 last year because of the lack of a hard drive.

The Slim doesn't really alleviate the HDD problem much, especially since M$ is only going to allow a max of 32 GB via 2 different USB cables. I don't really see this as a great solution.

I think M$ is making a grave mistake with their Slim. I think they really should have focused on making a Slim model for both the Elite and the Arcade. The Elite is really the gamer's 1st choice of a console. A cheaper Elite Slim would have been much more popular, IMHO, than an Arcade Slim. The Elite Slim could have revitalized the Xbox much in the same way that the PS3 Slim has revitalized the PS3.

So, even though M$ will have a cheaper 360 I am still not that impressed. What will be much more deadly will be a cheaper Elite bundled with Natal. I think M$ is making a major mistake in not making a Slim Elite model available in a Natal bundle--- that would have had great appeal.



 

Most anticipated games of 2011:

Uncharted 3,Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Rocksmith

Modern Warfare 3, Super Mario 3D

 

its going to have a smaller motherboard to reduce overheating and the power brick will still be outside and it going have the same outershell and most likely a $50 pricecut in the end nothing special



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SpartenOmega117 said:
Cross-X said:
That sounds just as stupid as someone from another site writing an article titled "Is God of War 3 the beginning of the end of X360?"

ALl im saying is that if an xbox 360 slim does come out at a price tage of $149 it will seriously hurt the ps3


Seriously? Really? You think that Microsoft will slash $150 off the current price with the launch of the "360 Slim"?

By doing so Microsoft would start losing money on the 360 again and right now that's not something Microsoft needs. While they can afford to lose money (it is f'ing Microsoft) they have bigger problems.

I've seen the new "motherboard" for the "slim". All I see is them making everything smaller. While that's a good thing. Effective shinking lowers cost, but they also made the cooling system smaller. It's the same system that everyone has had problems with. Just it's smaller.

Sony is in a great situation right now. Losing $14 on the PS3, with the megaton games that have released so far. Microsoft has Halo: Reach (which won't expand the current userbase of the 360, no matter if you release the "slim" around the time it releases. I've already said that multiple times throughout this site) and the next Call of Duty game which won't be close to the blockbuster Modern Warfare 2 was.

Microsoft's time in the sun is ending on the 360. They won't be able to keep it going for more than 1 to 2 more years no matter what the Microsoft PR claims. It is not as flexible as the PS3.

We are still many years away from any company fully maxing out the PS3. While there are games that have already ran into limits on the 360.



MDMAniac said:
I was sayin it before, so I sat it again: MS pull the trigger to sony when they drop box to 99/59. And people saying it'd be impossible are forgetting four things:
a) how deep ms pockets are
b) how cheep made xbox hw is
c) big money coming to them from amazing sw sales, Live and accessories
BIG D) how methodical and insisting MS is at killing their competition: ps to them is just like another netscape ;)

Yeah like the iphone was another netscape for Zune ;) Oh wait... MS lost, my bad.

The myth MS is successful in killing competition is just that... a myth.

MS tried tons of things and succeeded only at 2 of them : Windows and Office.

Everything else more or less failed. 360 can also be considered a half success until now, though.



Lyrikalstylez said:
Tanstalas said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

Well basicly having 360 go head 2 head with ps3 at $300 is insane, because ps3 has more money for your buck

but lets say a $200 360 slim vs a $300 ps3 slim is where Sony is gonna sweat because it puts 360 at equal value......

So in the end, the console war between these two will be decided on the games

Equal value?

Not to sound fanboyish, but after $100 for the wifi adapter you are sitting at both consoles being $300 again.

And then PS3 still has Bluetooth, Built-in controller battery (for 360 I think it's like $50 for the battery pack?  Been awhile since I bought mine) and a Blu-ray player..


Casual Gamers dont care about that stuff, all they care about is the console price....So seeing one way cheaper that the other is a huge advantage

besides I never use those things on my ps3 anyways....So its just a waste

I can smell and see BS. 



Coronalex said:
Profcrab said:
Coronalex said:
I don't think it will make MUCH of a difference.
Sure they will sell well, but the PS3 is at a sweet spot with 299.
If they need to a drop to 250 it will make this a "non issue" as KB would put it.
Plus "It's Official: PS3 Has The Best Library Ever" http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178474
I think everything will be juuuuuuuuuust fine

Before you go posting that link around too much, consider that Lair is on that list of "Gold" games.  It got a Famitsu score of 34/50 whic is above the 32/50 needed to be on that list.  Remember that Famitsu is a Japanese hype meter.  Their ratings are based, and they have admitted, largely on how much the game is anticipated.  The only reason the Wii is way low on that list is because of all the shovelware.

Also, if you actually read the numbers, Famitsu may have given a greater percentage of PS3 games a "gold" ranking, but they gave more 360 game gold rankings in total number, than they gave PS3 games, 77 PS3 games to 104 360 games.

So, first, Famitsu is a poor measure of game quality.  Second, if you are going to post a link to numbers, make sure you read them first.

I give that post a 9.1.

Wow, even posts are being rated now a days are they ?

This whole fanboy scene has hit a whole nother level.

This argument could be endless, after all, we are going by other peoples opinions.

BUT going by what you are saying, the PS1 is much better than the 360

PS1 (130/2645)

360 (104/240)

Is that right ?

The whole point of this was to say "on average" which ones have a higher rating, not "who has the most".

I would have thought that was obvious... Maybe it's just me

 

I made no comment as to whether I agreed with the OP in my post.  I simply pointed that the evidence you presented in your post was flawed.  In fact, if you read my earlier post, I said that a 360 slim would not mean mean anything for PS3 sales.  It would likely only keep 360 sales on track, which is good for MS, sure, but it certainly wouldn't be "the end of the PS3".

Also, if you want to bring the PS1 into it, the PS1 was an awesome system.  It had a crapton of games made for it because any bozo who knew C and could program a game for it.  So, it had a ton of useless games, but it also had many very good games and Sony is still riding the legacy of that system.  If you are going to ask me which was a better system for it's time, I would say PS1, hands down.  I have not a single bad thing to say about the PS1.

So, going from that point of view, average rating percentage is rediculous for trying to compare a system.  If you make 4 games for a new system and 3 of them are highly rated, then you are now at a 75% high rating which blows the other systems out of the water.  So, again, the article you posted is useless and proves nothing, just as your fanboy accusation evaporates into thin air when you actually consider what I posted and the previous posts I have made on the topic.

I give that post a 9.2.



Thank god for the disable signatures option.

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someone give me a name.