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ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:

All of a sudden? I didn't have much time for twitter before the buyout.

Don't make assumptions if you don't have all the facts lined up.

What do you call these below?

Not assumptions?

ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:

There is no room for bigotry, fake information, hate speech, homophobia, sexism, racism and more, period. Real life or online.
It's called being respectful.

Not even towards Caucasians? It seems to be the norm that hate speech or racism towards whites has been carved out.

Reverse racism/sexuality isn't actually a thing, usually it's brought up due to a narcissistic personality trait, not saying you are, but you seem to be parroting the same droll lines as all the other conservatives push in the media.

I.E the traits are:
- Lack a care or understanding of others.
- Have a lacking need or unwillingness to recognize the need and feelings of others.
- May feel slighted. (I.E. Other individuals getting support so they are on equal footing as you, and you receive nothing.)

Being a straight white male still gives you an advantage in the world over all else, not just socially, but also often financially and more.

The funny part is the tantrums when that starts to change. And it should change.
The USA has such a rich cultural background and should be brought to the foreground, not pushed away.

But yes, there are some unsavory characters in the world... But when you negatively attribute negative connotations to an "aspect" of someone constantly, then everyone gets branded with the same brush over time and you build a negative stigma.
Just remember being African American is an aspect of someone, it's not who they are.

Same as being LGBTQI, you are the same as everyone else, it's just one small aspect of who you are is different... But from certain people, that is all they can see.

ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:

I think Musk just thrives on attention, Trump does the same thing, they like to be the center of it, that is how they make their "brand"... So the crazier the idea, the more disruption they can cause, the better for their particular brand... Which is themselves.

Aren't Elons brands electric cars, rockets, and social media where Trumps brands are real estate, hotels, and golf clubs?

Elon himself is a brand.
Trump himself is a brand.

Whenever someone talks about Rockets and Cars, they talk about Elon Musk.
Elon is the brand that sells his other brands.

Trump is the same... Yes he has a ton tied up in real estate, but much of it has his brand on it. I.E. Trump Tower.
Trump is the brand.


ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:

I have no issue with people being fired, it is a part of life, it's the other policies he is forcing onto others that I don't agree with. I.E. Forcing people to work without compensation. It's not ethically right... And you defending that makes me question your own morals and ethics.

What about apprenticeship's, internship's, etc? It's totally normal to go without pay for some period of time. The larger the company, the more likely they are to take advantage of this and stretch it out as long as possible, unless you quit, if that's allowed.

I'm not aware of the working policies over in the United States.
But here in Australia, which is based on policies from the UK and Europe, we are a little fairer and forward thinking.
All apprenticeships and internships are paid. As they should be.

If you work, you get paid. It is that simple. No if's or but's. You get paid.

I am managing a multi million dollar company as my day job, If I ask any of my employees to stay later, even though they are on a salary, I pay them overtime at $60 per hour.
They get annual leave, sick leave, carers leave, maternity leave, so they also get paid for time off.

Do the right thing by your employees and they give back just as much, it keeps them motivated with positive reinforcement.
When you start making demands, introduce negativity, they push back... Because they are people with feelings and you loose productivity for it... Or you end up with high employee turnover, so you never retain a working base which is highly skilled and knows the business.

ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:

Elon thrives on drama, same with Trump. - It is how they sell themselves as a "brand". And they are damn good at it.

 Elon and Trump are popular and were long before social media. That popularity, which social media can expand, naturally helps if you don't abuse it.

They were rich prior, yes.
But their success has catapulted because of Drama which sells their brand.

In saying that, I never heard of either before the bullshit started to happen, so they weren't world-wide renowned like they are now.

ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:

But it is all just drama... And they don't care who they step on in the process, it's just toxic.

 More like it's all just business? If you're not pulling your weight or aren't necessary any longer, you're simply not needed going forward.

When you are firing people because you don't agree with what they say, work ethic doesn't actually come into it.
He needed to sit down with these people, identify the key issues and work to resolving them in a positive and constructive manner.

The guy just doesn't like other people expressing their right to free speech.

ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:

Either way, we can be certain that Elon doesn't actually care about free speech, he talks a big game, but he doesn't deliver it.

Maybe he's not concerned about how we think he should go about offering free speech on Twitter. Then again, he is doing Twitter polls about that.

I thought conservatives didn't believe in polls?

ConservagameR said:
Pemalite said:
I haven't used it in 5+ years, if anything there is less of a reason to go back now, than there was before...
I do actually have morals, which dissuades me further.
What other people do is obviously no concern to myself.

So what Elon is doing at Twitter doesn't concern you?

It concerns me, because I actually give a shit about people, especially when they are treated unfairly.

I don't live my life in a bubble where I am only concerned about myself.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 26 November 2022

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