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Runa216 said:
sundin13 said:

Oh, 100%. This election was not a victory for progressive ideas so much as it was a loss for hyper-conservatives.

i mean, even baby steps are steps. Right? 

Of course.

I'll also add that this election was also a loss for New York centrist Democrats so I think there is a real argument for the potential of progressive politics to energize the youth vote. I think the main problem with Dems right now is that they are struggling to find a coherent message on a lot of issues. We saw a lot of Dems (again, like those in NY) go the "tough on crime" route and I just don't think that is a winning message. We spent the last decade arguing that policing is flawed. While it is still very much necessary, a message based on "lets just do the same thing we've always done" doesn't work for leftists. But we've also struggled to put forth a clear alternative. I think there is a lot of good, popular policy in the BLM/Defund the Police activism sphere but I don't think anyone has done a good job of selling it to voters.

The big challenge for 2024 will be finding our messaging. We've done a pretty good job at exploiting weaknesses, now we just need to sell our strengths.