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VAMatt said:
CGI-Quality said:

Not that anything is final, but things will most likely end up like this…..

Upvoting article comments will remain (perks included). Forum Likes and article extra power (perk) downvoting will be axed. I’ve read/heard plenty of the issues, talked with the mod team and several admins and it is looking like the best course of action.

Speaking as a "supporter", I'd say that removing perks should not be done without a lot of notice.  If you sell people on 2x, 3x, 4x voting power, you gotta give them that.  If you want to do away with it, maybe take it off the list of perks but keep it active for a year so that nobody that bought in gets the stuff they paid for removed in the middle of their subscription.

Also, how does it make sense to give 2/3/4x upvote ability, but not with downvotes?  Off the top of my head, I'd say remove both or neither. 

In the interest of full disclosure, I do make use of my 3x voting power both up and down.  I didn't use the downvote option very much until recently, but I definitely have increased my use of the feature in recent months.  I think that's mostly because it just feels like the way things are moving, so I've gone along for the ride.  It is almost like I feel like I have to do it, otherwise things are out of balance. Of course, I recognize that if I'm doing it, others probably are too, and that this puts us in a downward spiral.  Hopefully, I'm not a terrible abuser of the system.  I don't feel like I am.  

As I mentioned in a previous comment, I don't support changes *at this moment*, but I do understand that things are getting weird.  How about starting with a pinned post along the lines of "Stop weaponizing downvotes".

I do agree that notice should be given, I have thought about this and think some sort of rolling removal would be best, so if you have supporter for 3 months, you'll lose the perk in 3 months, if you have it for a year, you'll lose it in a year? Though I don't know if supporter can be stacked, if it can then I would just go with a long notice for everyone, lol.

I also would agree with removing both but the poll is too split, so I think it's a fine middle-ground to disallow the perks usage for downvotes.

Imo, I'm sure you aren't a terrible abuser of the system but I think whether someone is intentionally abusing it or not isn't really important, it's still a broken system which causes an uneven representation of things, no matter how an individual uses it, Imo it is wrong for users to have extra voting power, nobodies voice should matter more.

Plus with how small VGChartz is lately, a x4 voting power alone can have a big influence. I'm also a bit suspicious of some of those no posts supporter accounts, lol.

I'm not sure a pinned post will do anything, upvotes/downvotes are anonymous, not like we can stop someone from downvoting either. Maybe making downvotes/upvotes not anonymous in the article section will ease things a little?

VAMatt said:

Frankly, other than a bit of a bruised ego (which really shouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of participants here that seem to be grown adults), the only negative that comes from down votes is making it harder to see the comments.

I'd disagree here, I have seen users say that they've stopped posting in articles due to the downvoting situation, I think it also creates a negative atmosphere which is the least thing that VGChartz needs right now, I don't want to discourage users from posting, okay, maybe if they make garbage comments then sure, but I've seen a lot of harmless comments in the negatives lately for some reason.

And at the end of the day, as long as it isn't breaking a rule, it is allowed, no matter what peoples opinions are on if it's a crap opinion. I also feel like why do we have the distinction of downvotes in articles but not in forums too? Nobody can give me an answer to that so far

ClassicGamingWizzz said:
CGI-Quality said:

Not that anything is final, but things will most likely end up like this…..

Upvoting article comments will remain (perks included). Forum Likes and article extra power (perk) downvoting will be axed. I’ve read/heard plenty of the issues, talked with the mod team and several admins and it is looking like the best course of action.

So you guys (don't know who was the one with this idea or the one to implement it) sold these perks to people, made the money and now you want to back down and take it from people who paid for this.

This shit is smelling a little bad now.

Who was the one who invented these in the first place.

Who is the one getting the money.

Why is the moderation team making these decisions. Moderation team here is administrating the site too?

Will you refund the money for the people who paid for this thing ?

Edited : HOLY FUCK only now i read the stuff about the perks , i hope you ready to refund the people who paid for these things  70 dolars for a year. The one who paid for my gold badge ? Bro i hope you get your money back.

Did anyone buy Supporter for the sole purpose of the voting power?

Stuff is removed from Sub services all the time, that's life.

Admin and Writing team receive the money (not Ioi or Mods).

Moderation team isn't making the decisions, CGI discussed it with the Staff after users have commented on the situation here (and elsewhere).

This isn't a official Staff position but it is my opinion that they don't have to refund anyone, as long as everyone is given enough notice.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 28 December 2021