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[IvorEvilen]

iron_megalith said:

IvorEvilen said:

No one would have died that night had Kyle not had a gun. People need to stop bringing guns to public spaces. We are too paranoid and trigger happy to be trusted with that kind of power, and there never seems to be a good guy with a gun when you need them. Likely because the legitimately good people are rarely the type who could stomach pulling the trigger.

How about "None of this would have happened if rioting wasn't happening?" Oh yeah. I get it. They were peaceful! Those are just fires to light up the place so no one trips on a rock or something.

Kyle had better trigger discipline than Binger. Binger making his closing arguments while holding that rifle with his finger on the trigger and pointing it to the jury made me laugh. Many of the people here do not understand the amount of tolerance Kyle had to not shoot someone. But no. Let's just buy the lies the media are peddling right now and believe that he is a trigger happy lunatic who shot at random "protestors".

Feels good that Kyle is not guilty! Makes my previous ban even more hilarious. Thanks again for that ban you gave me last year Hiku!

So because rioting was going on... it gives someone a license to kill people?  I did not realize that not shooting other people required an above average amount of tolerance?

Sarcasm aside, I see a lot of "the media lied about Kyle" posts here and on social media.  The notion that the media lied about Kyle is propaganda.  I consume a lot of media that is marketed towards centrist and left-wing audiences, and other than reporting on the limited information that was available at the time, I do not recall any sensationalist articles claiming he was a murderer that went out hunting for protesters (although Kyle did make some statements prior and post the incident that certainly did not help his case in the court of public opinion).  I do recall a few sensationalist posts shared on Facebook around that time (as well as cringy far-left content creators trying to capitalize on the outrage), but I saw the opposite misinformation from my conservative friends and family too.  It really ran the whole gamut.

That's not to say there weren't distasteful editorial or opinion pieces from more mainstream sources, or the occasional reporting of information that later proved to be factually inaccurate.  But anecdotally, I did not encounter any of those.  And that's part of the insidiousness of the claim.  It's nigh impossible to refute or support, but people believe it because the narrative is convenient.  Someone can compile a list of "problematic articles", but people are going to just disagree on the nuance of language, for example, crying bias over Kyle being referred to as a "killer".

And all of this is just an excuse to claim it's the medias fault, rather than acknowledge that half of the country's outrage is actually being fueled by differing opinions on the roles guns should play in society, the value of life, and the intersection of race/justice/police (I acknowledge that last point is loaded, because people are quick to point out that everyone was white in the Kenosha incident, but the contrast of the incident is hard to ignore considering the cultural climate the event took place in).  To put it more simply, people are not okay with the idea of vigilantes with guns policing our towns.  People are not okay with them getting to use the law as a shield when they get into trouble with people who are not okay with them being vigilantes.