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Cyran said:
Dulfite said:

Yeah I'm not sure if $11 would get 60 senators. That would require 3 moderate Democrats supporting the raise (2 of which are in heavy Republican states, 1 is in a purple state), and 10 moderate republicans to support it. There aren't even 10 moderate Democrats and Republicans collectively lol. I could see it getting 55 votes with a lot of pork barrels/riders (the kind progressives would probably hate), but 60 would be impossible in my opinion.

I think it would get all 50 Democrats.  I not heard a single one of them not support $11.  Manchin already said he supports it otherwise I would not of even brought it up.  Republicans I agree I don't think it would get 10 of them but that my point it would make every one of them on the record that they against increasing the minimum wage at all and not willing to compromise at all on the subject.  There nothing to hide behind on a clean bill at what many consider a low number of $11.  If you vote against that there no doubt you against raising the minimum wage period.

Well yeah, but that wouldn't really hurt the Republicans that vote against it. The ones that vote for it will receive MORE voters (like Collins), but the ones that vote against it know that it won't hurt their re-electability. Republicans, generally speaking, would prefer to focus on getting people into higher paying jobs through training/education/apprenticeships and solve the poverty issue that way rather than increasing the pay for someone to put cheese slices on burgers or take trash out. Ideally, EVERYONE works their way into a high-demand career that pays well because what they are producing with their work is highly valuable to society, and ideally we can automate, as much as possible, simple tasks with machinery. Then we won't even need minimum wage to be a certain amount because everyone will be making good money except for high school students who haven't figured out what profitable path to take yet (but their parents will ideally make good money so that will just be spending money).

No major party wants poverty, but there is a huge difference in getting everyone to work in areas that advance our nation and the economy and make good money from that production then there is in forcing people to make good money even though what they produce is not that valuable to economic growth.

Last edited by Dulfite - on 08 March 2021