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Astral said:
JRPGfan said:

Thats a fantasy land like defense force comment :P

They sold 8 million+ copies.
Even if they have to refund like 500k-1m (realistically doubt its even that much, most people dont use refunds), they make mad bank.

"a step in the right direction"

Refunds should be the norm, when games use false marketing and lies about its game.

"What is important is that the community sent a strong message to all the big publishers and developers in the industry by rejecting these practises."

They got away with it, they are laughing all the way to the bank.
A calculated move for profits, paid off hugely for them. Day1 they already recouped all costs of developement and more.

You think this will prevent others from burning their goodwill/goodname, in future?

Theres money people in charge at the top, that only care about money.
Most other game studios would likely pull the same move, if they thought it was the right way to go about makeing the most money.
Its just a matter of risk accessment, and seeing how well it turned out for CDproject red, there's not likely to be any impact on others doing same in future. (if it worked for CDPR, why couldnt it work for us?)


Nah, I have zero intention to defend CDRP. I don't even like their games very much.
You are looking at the surface only, the sales number. Are you aware that there stock value went down by a decent amount because of this situation? This has directly affected the shareholders / investor interest in the company. After big releases companies expect a rise in the market cap, not the opposite.

I do believe a strong message was delivered to the industry. But I didn't say that the industry was forever changed by that.

Their stock price was overvalued to begin with honestly, it got driven up by overhype for Cyberpunk, hype they were never going to be able to deliver on. Somehow their market cap was higher than Ubisoft, an entire publisher with 18,000 employees and about a dozen big IP's, compared to CD Projekt having 1,111 employees and no owned IP (both Witcher and Cyberpunk are licensed from their creators). Can't say I'm surprised by their stock price dropping some after the controversy. Will go back up some soon thanks to the high sales and the updates that fix the game next year and optimize it for next-gen. They also have the multiplayer Cyberpunk game coming which is sure to be a big success. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 14 December 2020