Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

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SpokenTruth said:

The Vote Blue No Matter Who crowd and the Bernie or Bust crowd boil down to immediacy and future.

The former simply want Trump out possibly fearing he'll do even more damage to our country.
The latter want to pressure the DNC to lean further left because they fear we aren't doing enough for our country.

One is short term, one is long term.

One addresses preventing further harm, one addresses doing more good.

I think that's an over simplification of it especially since that doesn't encompass a lot of the nuance in it. VBNMW are democratic party tribalist and are similar(practically the same) to how the republican party was behaving when it came to obama in 2012. Bernie or Bust are the people who put all their faith in 1 guy to fix the issue and see no real value in anyone else. Then there's leftist who fall outside these groups which are 100% policy base but there is overlap with both in the sense of "trump bad" and in the sense of "bernie is the only way we get x passed". I especially think you're giving the vote blue crowd too much credit for the simple reason being that Trump isn't really governing that much different from Obama, the only differences being he's less charismatic and a lot more xenophobic etc. They're looking entirely at image when they think "preventing harm" and even then, I think its more that they just hate him just like the republicans simply hate obama.