| CGI-Quality said: Pemalite talks more than me  , but the overall message is you’re looking at a mid-ranged product that will sit nicely among console supremacy. And yes, we need to see catchy what the XSX is sporting. @Pemalite I doubt they’re going the HBM2 route, but stranger things have happened! |
Yeah I know. Point I was making is we don't know yet.
Probability does lend itself towards being 16GB of GDDR6 due to price/performance.
| Radek said: Xbox Series X GPU is high-end not mid-range though, am I right? When I bought my RX 5700 XT on December 30th I thought it would match PS5 and Xbox Series X, and it's already confirmed XSX is more powerful than my new GPU :( |
If we were to compare the Xbox Series X to GPU's that are currently on the market? It is certainly high-end, AMD doesn't even have a GPU that can match it in terms of features or performance.
But we are slated to get a new range of high-end Navi GPU's... And nVidia will be entering the 7nm game for the first time with the 3000 series, both should be on the market before next-gen consoles, from there the performance level of the Series X may drop to the mid range or upper-mid range when compared to those parts.
| goopy20 said: I think it's not so much what you can buy nowadays for pc. It's more about what the average pc gamer has in their rig right now. |
Then if we are going to hold the PC to that standard, we should do the same for consoles, then it's an Apples to Apples comparison. - I would envisage that the average console has significantly less than 12GB of ram of the Xbox One X once we start to include the Xbox 360 which is still a functional console online and off and is still found in many homes.
It's all about the averages right? Irrespective of hardware age?
But no. I am not talking about any of that, I am talking about the average hardware that is sold today.
| goopy20 said: Even though we don't know all the details, it's pretty save to say that the average pc gamer right now, doesn't have hardware that comes close to specs of the Series X. |
And? That isn't my original argument.
To play devils advocate... Every PC is better than the Series X right now, because PC's actually exist as a device that you can actually buy and own.
When the Series X, the bar will certainly shift upwards considerably.
| goopy20 said: My whole gripe with GP is that it isn't trying to target the pc enthusiast or Series X specs. MS wants as many gamers as possible to be able to play their exclusives and that would defeat the whole point. Especially if the Series X is priced as a super premium product, instead of a mass market console. That's why I think their games will run fine on X1 and the lower spectrum of pc's. Obviously, they will scale and will look and run better on high-end pc and Series X. But I just don't see the developers going all out and make games that push the Series X to its limits at 1440p/30fps and then port them individually, so they run on 4 different Xboxes and low-end pc too. |
Frame reconstruction is likely to be a go-to technology this generation, resolution will take a backseat in importance.
| Mr Puggsly said: The 8th gen felt like gen 7.5 in many ways. Meanwhile BC is highly requested and perhaps more popular than ever. Console generations aren't new, but maybe people don't case as much per se. Especially when 7th gen games have done great on 8th gen. |
Backwards Compatibility has been a shining point for the Xbox One platform as a whole, it's not just breathing new life into old games, but Microsoft is also putting those older games up for sale in their Xbox One digital distribution store, so those titles continue to accrue sales.
Also means that the Xbox 360's Xbox Live is likely to stick around just that little bit longer.
It isn't a perfect scheme, some games were unplayable when released on the scheme, like Halo: Reach.
And the scheme has been canned so Microsoft can focus on Next-Gen.
And further still... Doesn't support the full Xbox or Xbox 360 games library, nor will it, there are even exclusives with expired license which will never be playable.
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