Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

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Hiku said:

Jaicee said:

1.) According to the entrance polls, Sanders won the most votes among both men and (for the first time so far) women, among working class voters and union households (despite the advice of the bosses of the Culinary Workers Union)

2.) I also want to take a moment to criticize all of the other candidates for advocating a brokered Democratic convention. These candidates have all spent no shortage of time and energy voicing the danger that the current U.S. president represents to lower-case "D" democratic principles. Some of them have even advocated doing away with the Electoral College specifically on the grounds that it has repeatedly denied the winner of the popular vote the presidency (e.g. Al Gore and Hillary Clinton). It's flatly impossible to square their purported support for such principles with calls for the nomination of an unpopular candidate by a group of special electors (super delegates in this case). As much shows you their actual level of commitment to democratic principles: they are serious about such principles only when they stand to benefit and not otherwise. Apparently it takes a candidate from outside the Democratic Party to live up to the meaning of said party's name!

1.) Yeah that was interesting. I guess someone informed them that they don't have less choices with Medicare For All, in spite of their union reps best efforts.

2.) I have to say I'm mainly disappointed in Warren here. But only because I hold her to a higher standard than the rest. I didn't expect better from them. But Warren had been very outspoken against money's influence in politics. Just a few months ago she said this:

But now she did a 180:

And of course her comment about a brokered convention.
So now I'm not so sure she would drop out of the race even if she loses her home state. Unfortunately at this point it's probably about either helping Sanders, or doing whatever they can to stop him, even if that means a Bloomberg nomination.

I'm just gonna point out, the writing has been on the wall for Warren doing this since 2016. Red flag and more Red flags. I still see people using the word "progressive" for her when time and time again she's proven she's not. I'll start with the most simple and most disqualifying thing about Warren. Big Money. She took it, transferred it into her campaign from her senate race, said she'd take in the general, swore off super pacs until her money ran dry cause now she needs the super pacs to stay competitive. She's just a player in a the game. She's not a progressive, but a standard dem.

I've called her a snake for a long time, way before others caught up cause you believe actions not words. That's why when she keeps stabbing the movement, calling us hateful people, attacking us, telling blatant lies on Bernie and his supporters, I can't understand how people still think she'll put delegates with him. I don't understand it. I've seen this Denial so hard with Warren that I can't understand. Its like someone who keeps going back to their abusive ex because they claimed they change just for them to turn around and do the same thing again, yet they keep going back.

Warren is literally only running at this point, is to try hurt Bernie to push a contested convention. Warren aint it, never has been, never will be and I'm looking forward to her senate re-election campaign. I'm sure we can find a real progressive to replace her.