yvanjean said:

1) Sony has a presence at CES 2020 and Sony says "the future is coming" at CES 2020. They have a dedicated segment on gaming at the conference and bring in Jim Ryan.

When Sony's Jim Ryan took the stage at CES to talk about PlayStation, plenty of fans couldn't help but hope for something related to the PS5. Ryan did, technically, deliver, as Ryan said: "I'm pleased to share with you today, for the first time... our new logo." 

>Sony has a presence at CES 2020 and Sony says "the future is coming" at CES 2020.

Sony does a lot more than gaming.  It's not Sony's fault that people were hyping it up to be their next gaming console.  That's on the journalists.  It made no sense because Sony didn't announce the PS2, PS3, PS4, PSV, PSP at CES, and there was no reason to think it was going to be different this time.  

It boggles my mind that anyone was expecting anything more than a logo.  I've been betting for the past year and a half that Sony would probably have a conference next month specifically for the console.  

The PS4 was given a full two hour showing, with tech and games, and that was before E3 happened.  

There was no way in heck that they were going to show anything at CES about PS5, because CES is just as much about showing off their camera tech, and their TV tech as it is about their games system.  

yvanjean said:

2) Last generation featured mid generation refresh and many Sony and Xbox owners recently made the upgrade to the PS4 Pro and Xbox one X. So, we really don't know how the consumer will react this time around for the start of this new generation. Especially, if all the current gen game for PS5 & XBSX will most likely run on the old gen console for the foreseeable future. This should in theory lead to a slower upgrade to next gen especially when it come to the casual gamers. 

Sony arrogance:

Ryan stated that "as we move towards the next-generation in 2020, one of our [Sony's] tasks -- probably our main task -- is to take that community and transition it from PlayStation 4 to PlayStation 5, and at a scale and pace that we've never delivered on before."

They have a press conference at CES where the focus is entirely on hardware and new tech and Sony is proud to announce their new Logo. 

>Sony arrogance:

They are wanting to transition to next gen in a big way.  That's hardly arrogance.  It's not anymore arrogant than MS.

yvanjean said:


3)My bad I meant to say Sony will announce the release of a PS5 Pro version in 2022. It's pretty clear that this is Sony new business model. I do think that Sony will have a PS5 Pro that will surpass the Xbox one Series X ready for Year 3 of the next generation. 

And I'm sure MS will have a Series X2 around the same time.  It's pretty much implied by the name.