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https://www.vgchartz.com/article/442601/microsoft-cancels-gdc-2020-attendance-due-to-coronavirus-concerns/

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/442602/epic-games-pulls-out-of-gdc-2020/

 It seems Corona is very bad and can make make world economic  crisis especially tech , computer , software  company. 

I bet Olympic in 2020 Tokyo will be cancel as well.  



Wow, so many companies, so many events... Mental.

It only has a 2% mortality rate at the moment which is actually rather weak, hopefully it doesn't mutate/evolve/whatever.

It needs to be contained, either way.



twintail said:

I think you should just update your Sony thread to be for all cancellations.

Tokyo Olympics being cancelled definitely seems on the cards now

I hope the latter doesn't happen, and by extension I hope the outbreak is controlled to an acceptable degree. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Mar1217 said:
A virus similar to the flu which isn't insanely more killer than it's original counterpart. Yet I'm pretty sure if you take the usual precaution you probably wouldn't get the infection anyway.

The real unluckiness of this situation is that the virus has progaged itself during the worst time of the year, winter, within one of the most populated country.

Media crisis and social sites are only going to exacerbate the situation even though we're far from looking at the black plague or the Spanish flu in terms of danger.

(As long as it doesn't mutate though)

1) You are right that it isn't nearly as bad as the black plague or can it get anything close to that.

2) Coronavirus is actually much more deadly that the flu though.

It's somewhere in between the flu and the black plague.  There is a lot of room in between those things.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
Mar1217 said:
A virus similar to the flu which isn't insanely more killer than it's original counterpart. Yet I'm pretty sure if you take the usual precaution you probably wouldn't get the infection anyway.

The real unluckiness of this situation is that the virus has progaged itself during the worst time of the year, winter, within one of the most populated country.

Media crisis and social sites are only going to exacerbate the situation even though we're far from looking at the black plague or the Spanish flu in terms of danger.

(As long as it doesn't mutate though)

1) You are right that it isn't nearly as bad as the black plague or can it get anything close to that.

2) Coronavirus is actually much more deadly that the flu though.

It's somewhere in between the flu and the black plague.  There is a lot of room in between those things.

The flu is worse than Corona Virus. Well, in terms of sheer number of deaths per year, anyway.

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html



ironmanDX said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

1) You are right that it isn't nearly as bad as the black plague or can it get anything close to that.

2) Coronavirus is actually much more deadly that the flu though.

It's somewhere in between the flu and the black plague.  There is a lot of room in between those things.

The flu is worse than Corona Virus. Well, in terms of sheer number of deaths per year, anyway.

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

I am talking in terms of percentages.  Going by the article you linked the death rate of the coronavirus is 2.67% while the death rate of the flu is 0.054%.  The coronavirus is about 50 times deadlier in terms of percentages.

In terms of raw numbers we don't know how bad it is going to get yet.  CDC is saying that it is likely to turn into a pandemic.



ironmanDX said:

The flu is worse than Corona Virus. Well, in terms of sheer number of deaths per year, anyway.

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

Let the corona virus have a full year then compare



Mar1217 said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

1) You are right that it isn't nearly as bad as the black plague or can it get anything close to that.

2) Coronavirus is actually much more deadly that the flu though.

It's somewhere in between the flu and the black plague.  There is a lot of room in between those things.

The Black Plague went on to kill about 2/3 of the European population.

Influenza yearly infects more than 600K people during seasonal flu and kills approx. 60K-70K yearly.

I'd say the Corona virus is more akin to the last flu pandemic we had in 2009-2010.

That one went out to kill between 280K-500K people (depending on sources).

I'd say we are looking at similar margins here.

Like I said, the most unluckiest fact about this pandemic was that it declared itself in a more so highly dense population which would obviously spread out the virus more effectively than let's say ... the Ebola which remained in Africa for most of it's prime.

The black plague killed 25 million people over several centuries. The world population was less than half a billion though, so quite severe death rates. There was no ICU nor any hospitals of course.

Estimates put the total infection rate at between 40% to 70% of the world population when it turns pandemic. Flu affects 5% to 20% of people each year.
Looking at the Corvid-19 numbers about 5% of those infected get seriously ill, for a long time, needing hospital care. Still over half of those will survive (with the proper care). However do we have the capacity to hospitalize 5% of 40% of 7.7 billion, over 150 million people? No.

It's loose in Europe now, containment seems to have failed. It will still be months until it reaches its peak and to slow it down would mean drastic measure like those in China, isolating entire cities and regions.

We have yearly flu shots nowadays to slow influenza down (still 60k deaths a year, of course that includes a lot of older people as well. We all die of something eventually)

To make a comparison using the US


If Covid-19 gets to run lose like the flu:
Lower estimate: 40% of 327 million get sick, 130 million. 5% need hospital care (based on Diamond Princess) 6.5 million. 2% die, 2.6 million.
Upper estimate: 70% of 327 million get sick, 229 million, 10% need hospital care (based on China) 23 million, 3.4% die, 7.8 million.

That's for round one. If it comes around again like the flu more casualties can happen.

However we'll need at least 8 times the hospital beds compared to the flu.



From global numbers infections in western countries are very low, like double digits usually. But better to be safe, and looks like MS gonna live stream their panels as a substitute so no biggie.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
From global numbers infections in western countries are very low, like double digits usually. But better to be safe, and looks like MS gonna live stream their panels as a substitute so no biggie.

Of course it starts with a few cases. Covid-19 started in December in China.
https://www.newscientist.com/term/covid-19/
Despite all their efforts it's now in 58 countries and still 78k active cases in China. However more new cases are now emerging daily outside China than (reported) from China. It will still take months before it gets huge, but now is the time to prepare and try to prevent or slow down further spread. The incubation period is 2 to 14 days, which slows down spreading, but also makes it hard to contain especially since most have milder flu like symptoms before it might get worse.

So yep, better to be safe. The current spread in Europe is mostly from people returning from Italy after going on holiday. In South Korea it started spreading fast from religious gatherings. (or a cult dunno https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/coronavirus-shincheonji-secretive-sect-south-korea-covid19-12475122) Pilgrimage to Mecca is getting a world wide ban, first time in forever.