Didn't you read my previous post where I specifically say that around 9 million people die of hunger related problems every year around the world?Or is that irrelevant?

And economy affect much more than just hunger.People without money can't have proper health care, which leads to death due to other diseases.

Simply said yes, in the context. Hunger can be classified as a third world problem. Covid is a first world problem (because we will never know how badly covid behaves in the third world which has no accounting at all).

People should stop weighing one thing against another to upplay/downplay whatever the perceived coparison is supposed to say. Particularly when the two problems (covid/hunger) have no logical relation. Fact is there is a new disease in town with unknown long term consequences.

You really have no idea what's going on, do you?

Just as a side note: It's not like Politicians keep their word, do they?Macron can't do shit if their economy tanks.If a company wants to fire someone, they will.I'm not french, so I can't vouch for what's happening there(and France is a developed country with a good economy, so while they will take a big hit, it's not like it will break the country) but with the economy recession comming, you bet your ass that there will be alot of companies downsizing and going bankrupt because of this.

But let me give you an example of which I know: Brazil.It's a developing country, but not the one in the worst situation compared to other similar countrie.I already know for a fact that the number of people that have been fired because of the lockdown is already above the 1 million.And we are months away from all this situation from ending.

So if a country that wasn't on the shit like Brazil is already like this, imagine what Argentina is going through.Or Venezuela, or Eastern Europe.Or Africa.Or Asia.

If even the developed countries are already registering these kind of number of people losing their jobs, imagine the rest, and you come to me and say that "If a country has a good health system, it dosen't have to worry about it's economy", then you really have no clue, simply because every single respectable economist is saying that we are going to go through a very rough time.Or are you trying to undermine Trump, just to get a hit on him, and like all the idiots, trying to make this a political topic?

Covid dosen't, but economy does.And when countriesstart closing down because of that, then a connection was born.

Plus, people don't die only of hunger.Lack of treatment of other diseases also kill people, and that's also linked to economy, because the more money you have, the better treatments you can get.

You wanna defend his bollocks "0.001%"?

And it is 157k so far with only 2.3 million known cases. Without these lockdowns / "social distancing" there would already be much more and without trying to slow down the spreading, numbers would rise exponentially.

As long as the health system can manage the cases, mortality rate can be kept down. F.e. here in Germany we have been that lucky so far, "only" every 20th of the closed cases ended in death:

But without trying to slow down the spreading virus (or not doing enough to slow down the spreading), the number of serious/critical cases will soon be bigger than the number of patients which can be treated at the same time.

And when that happens, doctors and nurses will have to "triage" (decide who gets treated and who doesn't get treated)... and then the mortality rate will go way up. Therefore it is in everyones interest to avoid that horror scenario by flattening the curve.

Since when free healthcare means that you will get treatment?I have relatives in Austria, and they said that a few years ago they didn't need a health plan because the public system was just fine.But with the overload of the system because of all the immigrants caused the system to slow down, to the point that it was taking 3 full months to just perform a test.Then they switched to a paid health care system, and they have been happy ever since.

Same applies for Brazil.Believe me, the health system, while good, is simply overloaded and it takes months to do simple tests.If you have something serious, and have no money to pay for a private helath care, you are dead.

So my point is: Having Public Healthcare is different from being able to use it.

Bolded: Bring up both sides is how we have a discussion.If you have only one person talking then it's a monologue.Plus, people have to get out for different reasons:go buy groceries, go to the doctor, or simply to have a walk to not go crazy.If you think you know better than a person that is abbiding the rules and just doing something to keep themselves healthy/sane/occupied without harming others, is the real moment that something is wrong.

Plus, that is how dictatorships are excused.A dictator never goes and says he does the thing he does because he is evil.It's always for the good of the nation.Just saying.

The number of deaths by gun in the US is far lower than most countries in the world, especially compared to the population number.Just saying.But that's another discussion entirely.

If you think that ending the quarentine prematurely will only benefit the billionares and corporations, it's because you are not seeing the number of people being fired around the world.The first group to suffer more because of the economical crisis is always the poor.Remember: A billionare is a billionare because he has money.If his company is going under, he can simply close it and retire with his montain of money.Not the same can be said about the poor.

Mass death and a severely damaged economu is what many of us are trying to avoid.Having a full lockdown for more than a month is not going to achieve that.That's what I have been trying to tell you guys.

Where are people not allowed to get groceries, visit a doctor, or go for a walk?

The 0,001% was just an example of how low these numbers are compared to any other disease and problem the world have, as the numbers I gave you showed.I'm not trying to justify anything.I don't have to.We nevber had lockdown for any of these disease that are arguably far more deadly and serious, and humanity is just fine.I don't need to downplay the lockdown, reality is doing that for me.

Plus, the lockdown is far more efficicent than you think.Why do you think that the numbers keep rising even when most countries have this lockdown in effect?Simple: Most people were already infected way before the lockdown was placed in effect.So in this situation you have one family member infected placed at all times close to the other family members that are not infected.Remember, this virus has a 2 week long incubation.For this lockdown to truly have an effect, it should have been put into effect in January or early February, not mid march.But that's just me.

So you are saying that you have the right to kill people by starving them of money?