Mnementh said:
uran10 said:
He said progressive which none of these 3 are, that's the most important point, not like it'd convince the left to vote for Biden anyway. Even Kyle is saying that if he was in a swing state he wouldn't vote for Biden.
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He also said at least three boxes are ticked, which is the case for all three. I just don't believe Biden will promote anyone progressive. The whole point of the Biden campaign was to stop progressives. All three are less centrist than him though. And Abrams efforts to stop voter suppression are commendable.
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I also stated that progressive was the most important point if he even remotely wanted to win some of the left over. But you're right, the entire point of Biden was to stop Bernie, not win the presidency, in fact he's said his VP has to be prepared to step in on day 1 before.
Personally, I'm tired of this nonsense. And here's the main thing too, if the entire point of running was to stop the progressive movement (it was), then why should the movement vote for you? I don't care who your VP is because they will never be progressive because your plan was to stop / destroy the movement. Then we have people running around acting arrogant as hell screaming "blah blah we don't need your vote" and then the other set screaming "vote blue no matter who (as if this isn't cult like)". With all the voter fraud, voter suppression and disgusting tactics the Establishment pulled out this cycle, I don't even think I'll be voting down ballot at all in November. I mean I have a republican with a D next to their name as my representative anyway and I think she's getting a challenger but no one is even studying anything right now so I don't see a point.
The Part that annoys me the most about this is that the people who came out, the vote blue no matter who crowd, don't care who the nominee is, they only care about beating Trump. They don't care what the policies are, they only want to beat bad orange man. Then we have the media screaming into their ears everyday "Bernie is not electable" even though the majority of the polls had him beating Trump in both 2016 and 2020 by the largest margins especially in the swing states but yes, they hear that, so they go out and vote for "mr electable" and then when november comes around and the youth don't vote, keep in mind the Republicans ALWAYS win the older vote, so yes the youth vote and the indy vote will be suppressed, all Trump has to do is not completely screw up this current ordeal and he'll slide to victory. Without this ordeal he would have had an easy re-election vs Biden.
And to those who keep wanting Trump out regardless of who replaces him, what's the point of removing Trump when we have someone whose policies are essentially the same. Nothing will fundamentally change but okay.