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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 Won April NPD ( PS4 > NSW > XBO)

nemo37 on 18 May 2018
Miyamotoo said:
JRPGfan said:

Switch had a launch + 1st holiday that year..... those two are more important than 2 extra months at the start of the year.
Plus It had Mario Odessey + BoTW, this year it hasnt had a new huge title to get people to go buy a unit.

it might not do those 20m that people are saying it will, this year.

Nintendo itself also said that, but like you wrote, Switch lineup until April wanst good while from this month is getting quite stronger and espacily in second half of year when we will have Smash Bros and most likly Pokemon.

But going by these numbers, I think that having ports for much of the first half of the year was a mistake. The ports themselves are being boosted because not only are most of them great games but this time they are being launched on far better received and selling hardware. However, the ports themselves are not moving units like a new game would. Similarly, I think they overestimated Labo.

At this point I am somewhat worried about Switch's sales momentum. I may be catastrophizing, but I seriously hope that Nintendo has a strong H2 lined up for 2018 and potentially even a price cut. Right now my worry is not that it will not hit 20 million, but rather that it will only do about half of that prediction.

 



quickrick on 18 May 2018
Miyamotoo said:

YoY

PS4: +58%
Switch: -39%
XBox One: +20%

YTD
PS4: ~1.3M (+7%)
NSW: ~1.03M (-13%)
XB1: ~980K (+34%)
 

PS4 huge YoY up is obviously because GoW, Switch YoY down is obvously because Switch last year had MK8D and this Labo and April last still had launch effect because console was sold out in March.

switch was coming off a launch month I told you that already. april is always weak for console sales, remember are bet ;).

Last edited by quickrick - on 18 May 2018

Pinkie_pie on 18 May 2018

How is nintendo expecting to sell 20m switch this year when it's not gonna outsell ps4 and Sony is expecting 16m this year?



DonFerrari on 18 May 2018
Miyamotoo said:

YoY

PS4: +58%
Switch: -39%
XBox One: +20%

YTD
PS4: ~1.3M (+7%)
NSW: ~1.03M (-13%)
XB1: ~980K (+34%)
 

PS4 huge YoY up is obviously because GoW, Switch YoY down is obvously because Switch last year had MK8D and this Labo and April last still had launch effect because console was sold out in March.

And XB1 is managing to get continuous YOY growth compared to the bad first semester.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

thismeintiel on 18 May 2018
Miyamotoo said:

YoY

PS4: +58%
Switch: -39%
XBox One: +20%

YTD
PS4: ~1.3M (+7%)
NSW: ~1.03M (-13%)
XB1: ~980K (+34%)
 

PS4 huge YoY up is obviously because GoW, Switch YoY down is obvously because Switch last year had MK8D and this Labo and April last still had launch effect because console was sold out in March.

This just shows you how low 2017 was for XBO when it can be up 34%, yet still behind PS4 by ~320K after just 4 months. And that growth only came because of a bunch of sales that marked it $50-$80 cheaper than the PS4. 



 

JRPGfan on 18 May 2018
Pinkie_pie said:
How is nintendo expecting to sell 20m switch this year when it's not gonna outsell ps4 and Sony is expecting 16m this year?

They have to pull out Pokemon Switch this E3, if they want 20m imo.



quickrick on 18 May 2018
Pinkie_pie said:
How is nintendo expecting to sell 20m switch this year when it's not gonna outsell ps4 and Sony is expecting 16m this year?

Nintendo likes to be bullish to impress investors. they were off with wiiu for like 3 years in a row big time. there is no way nintendo is hitting 20 million imo.



Green098 on 18 May 2018
Pinkie_pie said:
How is nintendo expecting to sell 20m switch this year when it's not gonna outsell ps4 and Sony is expecting 16m this year?

With games presumably. 

Last edited by Green098 - on 18 May 2018

Kerotan on 18 May 2018
Miyamotoo said:

YoY

PS4: +58%
Switch: -39%
XBox One: +20%

YTD
PS4: ~1.3M (+7%)
NSW: ~1.03M (-13%)
XB1: ~980K (+34%)
 

PS4 huge YoY up is obviously because GoW, Switch YoY down is obvously because Switch last year had MK8D and this Labo and April last still had launch effect because console was sold out in March.

Superb yoy performance for the ps4. 



thismeintiel on 18 May 2018
Pinkie_pie said:
How is nintendo expecting to sell 20m switch this year when it's not gonna outsell ps4 and Sony is expecting 16m this year?

Short answer, it's not. 

Longer one. I think PS4 is going to outdo Sony's prediction and sell ~17M-18M. They will have a permanent cut to $249 this year, and most likely another $199 week. And that's not even taking into account the games it has releasing. Still, with all that, the max it can hope for is 18M.  

At this point, I think it's obvious, Nintendo expected Labo to help push HW, at least until the holidays and a few larger releases. That didn't pan out. So, my guess is they are either going to amend their goal, or they are going to have massive sales this holiday season, with probably a permanent cut to $249, as well. Still, even with all that, I still see them missing their goal. Probably matching Sony's 17M-18M.

Basically, Nintendo thought they had the next Wii, but it's not looking that way. It's definitely going to do well, but it's not exactly a phenomenon.