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mZuzek said:
Mar1217 said:

People plays their game differently.

I mean, Samus Returns took me about 15 hours to complete (Ok it took me 30+ min. to beat Diggernaut lol) but I remember people posting as they did it in less than 10 hours. 

Exploration based games tend to vary playtime more than other games in my opinion

Yeah, I seem to be pretty slow at Metroidvanias in general. Most 2D Metroids took me around 10 hours, the Prime ones closer to 25. Hollow Knight, 45. Ori and the Blind Forest 10 hours, Will of the Wisps 16. When I see other people's numbers mine always look higher lol.

But with the Metroid games there's a difference between the in-game timer, and the time you actually spent on it. Pretty sure when I first beat Super Metroid the in-game timer was something around 6 hours, but on the Wii U's log thingy it said 8 or 9 hours. Ultimately the latter is much closer to reality as the first timer doesn't include the cutscenes or transitions or anything that isn't gameplay really. But I only know the real time because I played these on the Wii U.

Samus Returns took me almost 20 hours, Ori and the Blind Forest over 20 hours, Ori and the Will of the Wisps 30 hours. I take much longer.



Stefan.De.Machtige said:

The rumoured double pack of Wind waker and TP might also be announced for this year. After skyward swords launches likely.

Unlikely, they said during the Direct that they have no plans for Zelda 35th anniversary outside of Skyward Sword and that Game & Watch system.



Shaqazooloo0 said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

The rumoured double pack of Wind waker and TP might also be announced for this year. After skyward swords launches likely.

Unlikely, they said during the Direct that they have no plans for Zelda 35th anniversary outside of Skyward Sword and that Game & Watch system.

Yea honestly, just the fact that they didn't show more Zelda remasters for the anniversary, and especially the fact that they didn't reveal a Donkey Kong game, were the only disappointing things in the Direct.

Like, obviously, I'd prefer BOTW2 to be this year. But if not, that's understandable (which is the case). Bit sad we have no DK and Zelda HD Collection, though. 



CaptainExplosion said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Yea honestly, just the fact that they didn't show more Zelda remasters for the anniversary, and especially the fact that they didn't reveal a Donkey Kong game, were the only disappointing things in the Direct.

Like, obviously, I'd prefer BOTW2 to be this year. But if not, that's understandable (which is the case). Bit sad we have no DK and Zelda HD Collection, though. 

I'm beginning to think Nintendo hates Donkey Kong.

I think this rumored Dinkey Kong might still be real and could release next year.



Looks like for the second year Nintendo will have a weak holiday lineup; the Diamond/Pearl remakes are bigger sellers than Age of Calamity, but the fact they're remakes and from the look of it low effort ones will limit their power.

As much as I'm looking forward to it, Metroid's not a big system seller, and Mario Party Superstars is a collection of old minigames and boards rather than an new game so while it will have nostalgia on its side, the fact its old content plus Switch already having a Mario Party game means it won't spur hardware sale either.

Between this and the ongoing shortages it looks like the 30m dream is dead.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 17 June 2021

Yea to be clear I'm not overvaluing the DK IP, I think if the Odyssey team is to have one priority it should be an Odyssey 2, and I never particularly believed the rumor. Just think it would be cool to have a new DK game (actually got into the series right before E3, too, worst time lol).



Unless Nintendo have another annual experimental title like Ring Fit or Mario Kart Live still to be announced a month or so out from release that manages to catch on like the former, it's looking like Switch's next real system seller isn't until next year. (Pokemon Legends) Hopefully sales don't lose steam in the meantime.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 20 June 2021

curl-6 said:

Unless Nintendo have another annual experimental title like Ring Fit or Mario Kart Live still to be announced a month or so out from release that manages to catch on like the foerm, it's looking like Switch's next real system seller isn't until next year. (Pokemon Legends) Hopefully sales don't lose steam in the meantime.

Hmm. Well pretty sure Pokemon Diamond/Pearl remake is gonna sell like a normal pokemon game, 15+ million, so this year at least has a huge holiday title.

Medium to big selling games still to come this year: Monster Hunter Stories 2, Mario Golf, Skyward Sword, Mario Party, Pokemon D/P. Right there you've got two games that should sell at least 5 million, Skyward Sword should sell at least 3 million, and two will be major 10+ million sellers, plus Dread which is a big name though it likely won't sell that much. That seems like a good amount, especially compared to last year which was basically just Mario 3D All Stars and Hyrule Warriors for the second half of the year. And there is probably one or two first party games we don't know about yet. I'm definitely expecting better sales the second half of this year than the second half of last year when the whole year relied on one game from March to push sales.



Slownenberg said:
curl-6 said:

Unless Nintendo have another annual experimental title like Ring Fit or Mario Kart Live still to be announced a month or so out from release that manages to catch on like the foerm, it's looking like Switch's next real system seller isn't until next year. (Pokemon Legends) Hopefully sales don't lose steam in the meantime.

Hmm. Well pretty sure Pokemon Diamond/Pearl remake is gonna sell like a normal pokemon game, 15+ million, so this year at least has a huge holiday title.

Medium to big selling games still to come this year: Monster Hunter Stories 2, Mario Golf, Skyward Sword, Mario Party, Pokemon D/P. Right there you've got two games that should sell at least 5 million, Skyward Sword should sell at least 3 million, and two will be major 10+ million sellers, plus Dread which is a big name though it likely won't sell that much. That seems like a good amount, especially compared to last year which was basically just Mario 3D All Stars and Hyrule Warriors for the second half of the year. And there is probably one or two first party games we don't know about yet. I'm definitely expecting better sales the second half of this year than the second half of last year when the whole year relied on one game from March to push sales.

Mario Golf and MHS2 aren't going to sell 5+ million. I'm expecting Mario Golf to reach 4mil in the long run and that would make it the best selling Mario sports game. Mario Tennis Aces is just over 3mil as of 2019 and is the best selling one. MHS isn't as big as the mainline games. You're overestimating both. Skyward Sword on the Wii sold 3.67mil. The HD version should outsell it by far. I'm expecting it to sell more than Link's Awakening.

Also Wario Ware could sell over 3mil copies. SMTV, NMH3 and Advance Wars are all likely million sellers. At least NMH3.

I think the only likely 20mil seller this year is SM3DW from February, but that's not guaranteed either.



curl-6 said:

Unless Nintendo have another annual experimental title like Ring Fit or Mario Kart Live still to be announced a month or so out from release that manages to catch on like the foerm, it's looking like Switch's next real system seller isn't until next year. (Pokemon Legends) Hopefully sales don't lose steam in the meantime.

Game Builder Garage is this experimental title I think.