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Wow someones obviously never owned a console. Ever. I'll admit Wiimotes are expensive, but yeah. What an idiot.




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PS4: 60-65m
WiiU: 30-35m
X1: 30-35m
3DS: 80-85m
PSV: 15-20m

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Don't forget the cost of the TV, and entertainment center, and a bigger house to store all the empty boxes. We are looking at $200,000 hidden costs here.



Not only that; Think of all the money you are going to lose when you skip work to play a game on day 1 release!!!



twesterm said:
Javaupdate said:

This is actually a very good column. I bought the Wii for Christmas and extra costs add up incredibly fast. Mainly because it's a party conssole and you need, really you need up to 4 extra controllers. Now of course each extra controller happens to come in two pieces and cost $60. Then you need an extra game. And I didn't even have to worry about batteries.

 

Lets say you just buy the Wii, one extra controller, and one extra game, it's already $310, and you probably want more controllers and batteries.

 

If you're buying a PS3 or 360 OTOH, you can probably get by with one controller, maybe pick up a  second tops later, 3rd or 4th out of the question.

 

I guess the unique thing to Wii is that you need so many controllers. And that being a "party" console you feel like you need more games with the system too, if that makes any sense.

You can't assume you need 4 controllers for the Wii and then compare it to someone not wanting 4 controllers on another console.  That's called unfairly skewing the facts to prove your point and it's a pretty worthless comparison.

If you have a family that needs four controllers for whatever reason, they're still going to need four if they buy a 360.  The only thing that changes is their selection of games, but then that would be the families fault for not buying the correct console for that family.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that consoles are more expensive than the sticker price for 99% of people, I just think this guy is a moron for not doing research before he buys and then being surprised when he found out he would have to spend more.

Correct sir.  It is called a special pleading fallacy.  This is where either one side is given numerous exceptions or exemptions from certain rules or qualifications while the other isn't or the other side being that one side is put up to higher standards of comparisons that the other isn't.  In his case, he made assumptions for the Wii on certain standards it had to meet to constitute it's sell and further sells while he exempted the other 2 from those rules.  It's a completely unfair comparison with no logical foundings in it whatsoever.  Haha you'd be surprised how many of these you'll find in common day comparisons, especially political ones haha.  I really can't see how people don't notice they do it as most of them are blatant but yea. 



 

The guy has dem' issues.

 



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Some of you who didn't even bother to read the full article before making statements are failing pretty badly.

Anyway, what I think is this guy has some kind of anxiety disorder because he mention anxiety and panic attack several times in the article. Now I am sure the added cost contributed to him returning the Wii, but that wasn't the only factor. He also returned it because it would undermine the other gifts they had gotten for the kids. He also stated that they could figure out a good policy in which to govern the wii use. Finally he stated at the end that he may indeed get a Wii.

Some things that got to me. He mention that he limited his kids internet time becaue he didn't want them to become shut in that have no friends. I can understand limiting the time cause of there age, but the shut in statement was uneccesary. He also hasn't played video games since Atari. He is really out of touch with technology it seems. I don't agree with his 30 minute policy, and I believe making it 30 minutes on wii and 30 minutes on internet would have been an easy and simple policy. He is not me though and I have not right to tell him how to raise his kids.

Anyway, boring article. I can't believe someone can get paid to right about their boring life. Maybe there hoping Wii in the title would up reader interest.



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I'm assuming this guy has never really owned a console before...he should know that you have to buy games and some accessories

I will give him that nintendo should have come up with a better solution than the batteries for the wiimote, but $30 dollars for a recharge station for never having to buy batteries again is worth it

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Journalism is suffering because of wage and time pressures, so are his kids if he can't afford a Wii and controllers.

Deciding on 30 min increments of tv time for your children. Are you in Natzi germany or something?

Playing Wii would have taken away from the other gifts? Not buying the other gifts would have saved you plenty of money for WSR and controllers and everything else.

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Wait, so I have to FEED these kids THREE times a day?! And I have to buy the food?!
Clothes?
School?
Haircuts?!

These hidden costs are INSANE! Kids go get your slickers (which, by the way, cost money too!), you're going back where I found you...

Seriously though, I can understand how someone who doesn't really "get" technology can walk away feeling screwed by the video game word, we all have at one point or another, but why write an article about it? And why do I hear John Stossel's whiney, nasal-y voice when I read it?



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While I think the article is mostly a demonstration on how uninformed typical buyers can be, I do think there is an argument that there is a lot of gouging in the price of accessories; and a level of hiding the true ownership cost of consoles by increasing the number of accessories people have to buy.

This might have changed, neither the XBox 360 Core/Arcade nor the PS3 came with cables to hook your HD console to your HDTV to get a HD signal. Controllers have (roughly) doubled in price in a generation, and the cost of games has increased on the HD consoles. There is a noticeable increase in the amount of for-pay downloadable content which would have been included in a game as it shipped a couple of years ago. And all three console manufacturers expect their owners to buy additional/upgraded control schemes to the ones they have already released.

Even though I understand why the market it this way, I can understand the frustration of the common man who bought a PS2 for $200 with 2 controllers, a memory card and a couple of games (and was good to go) who now goes out to buy any of the consoles and is spending so much more; and a large portion of the expense seems to be the companies nickle and diming them.

While I'm certain it wouldn't excite the dedicated gamer, a company could probably do fairly well if they released a console from launch with 2 controllers, 2 games, and everything needed to hook it up (and use all the extra features) and advertised it with no more hidden costs.