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KillerMan on 15 January 2010
irstupid said:
KillerMan said:
irstupid said:
KillerMan said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
gustave154 said:
Yes it is a 'flop' when compared to its portable cousins.

You know very wel that it outsold the PS2 - previous console version.

Capcom planned 2 million sales for it. A million in Japan only is a great start.


PS2 games came before the series popularity exploded with portable games. Not fair comparison. Still pretty good sales. Over one million in japan on home console is always great achievement.

funny how depending on how people want to see it flop or not they allow comparisons.  if you want gta china for ds to be a flop compare it to ps2 gta's.  if you want it to be a success then just look at sales.  if you want monster hunter to be a sucess, look at sales, or at previous console versions sales.  if you want it to be a flop, look at handhelds sales. 

 

whatever makes you people happy eh.

I didn't say that it is a flop. I just pointed out that comparing it to previous PS2 versions is not fair. And yes it is true that it is not fair either to compare 2D GTA to 3D GTA. I just wonder why they bothered with chinatown in the first place when they just could have released new 3D stories game to PSP ( and maybe port it later to the Wii) and sell at least 3milj.

its a better comparison to compare it to the console version.  both are on consoles and both are pay for online play.  the handheld version isn't on a console (huh no brainer) and is also a free to play online game.  Totally different, its like comparing ff11's sales to other final fantasies. 

The point is that latest PS2 MH game was released when series was not as popular as it is now. When MH2 was released on PS2 first PSP MH had broke barely a million. MH3 for Wii was released after third MH on PSP which is already over 3.5milj in Japan alone. You are right that comparing MH3 sales to PSP versions is not fair but comparing MH3 to MH2 is not fair either because popularity of series has exploded since PS2 games.



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Dno on 15 January 2010
jarrod said:
Dno said:
jarrod said:
Xoj said:
jarrod said:
gustave154 said:
Yes it is a 'flop' when compared to its portable cousins.

It's also a subscription based online RPG.  It's outsold every subscription based game in Japan ever released, including (all versions combined of) FFXI and PSO.

 

 

actually PC version sells quite well

The best selling PC game ever in japan was Ys VI, which sold ~500k.  Or half what MH3 on Wii sold.

btw, since Ys VII sold only 100k, I guess it's an even bigger flop.


this is much different the PSO and FF11. 1st you CANNOT play those games offline so you needed a online service to play them... which is NOT the case with monster hunter. you can play the game offline just you need to play to play online if im not mistaken. So everyone can buy it which kills your arguement.

2nd  if you want to talk about flops on consoles didnt ff13 on half the userbase in japan sell better then any Wii 3rd party game? Using your Ys logic that would mean every 3rd party game was a fail and thats clearly not the case as lots of games sold well... (just not halo, COD well)

Uh, have you ever played PSO/PSU?  You know MoHun's basically a PSO clone (ie: Diablo clone) right?  And that you can play PSO/PSU offline for free (PSO1&2 even multiplayer offline)?

And my "Ys logic" was comparing sequential same series releases.  FFXIII compared to other mainline entires... well... maybe it could've matched the PS2 entires had it been a Wii game. ;)

yup actually you are right you can compare PSO and monster hunter but NOT ff11 as you need a oline service so that still counts

Also  FF12 is 2.41 mil n japan and im pretty sure ff13 will match those sells and even if it falls short its still VERY close for a system with half the userbase. it will get a best versoin and its still selling 50k (almost) a week. point is you have no proof ff13 would match anything as the highest selling 3rd party game in japan is on ps3 NOT Wii. this gen.



c0rd on 15 January 2010
Dno said:
jarrod said:

Uh, have you ever played PSO/PSU?  You know MoHun's basically a PSO clone (ie: Diablo clone) right?  And that you can play PSO/PSU offline for free (PSO1&2 even multiplayer offline)?

And my "Ys logic" was comparing sequential same series releases.  FFXIII compared to other mainline entires... well... maybe it could've matched the PS2 entires had it been a Wii game. ;)

yup actually you are right you can compare PSO and monster hunter but NOT ff11 as you need a oline service so that still counts

Also  FF12 is 2.41 mil n japan and im pretty sure ff13 will match those sells and even if it falls short its still VERY close for a system with half the userbase. it will get a best versoin and its still selling 50k (almost) a week. point is you have no proof ff13 would match anything as the highest selling 3rd party game in japan is on ps3 NOT Wii. this gen.

I'm not going to make any claims about a "what if on Wii" scenario, but what does the bolded have to do with anything?



jarrod on 15 January 2010
Dno said:

yup actually you are right you can compare PSO and monster hunter but NOT ff11 as you need a oline service so that still counts

Also  FF12 is 2.41 mil n japan and im pretty sure ff13 will match those sells and even if it falls short its still VERY close for a system with half the userbase. it will get a best versoin and its still selling 50k (almost) a week. point is you have no proof ff13 would match anything as the highest selling 3rd party game in japan is on ps3 NOT Wii. this gen.

Well, Wii entries of other popular series seem to be generally matching or exceeding PS2 entries (Monster Hunter, DQ spinoffs, Taiko no Tatsujin, Biohazard Chronicles/Gun Survivor, etc).  The only ones that aren't seem to be franchises that have fallen off completely and/or are given higher priority on other platforms (Tales, Musou, Winning Eleven, etc). I'm pretty sure DQX will match or exceed DQVIII too.  I expect it'd have been the same had FFXIII been a Wii game.

As for FFXIII PS3, it's about 1.8m now and slowing precipitously.  I think it can crawl to 2m before it dies off completely, but not near the 2.3m FFX/XII managed.  They should've released the 360 version, then I think it could matched PS2 numbers.

Finally, while not always the rule, ratio arguments tend to inherently favor smaller userbases.  It's almost always easier to achieve a higher ratio on a smaller base.  For FF, well it's one of the top current series in Japan, with a built-in audience who'll essentially follow it anywhere.  If it were 360 exclusive it'd have still probably sold over a million (and more than MH3).

MH3 held the record for a while though, which it took from MGS4, which it took from DQ Swords.  Now FFXIII's taken it, and it'll probably hold on to it until DQX takes it (and probably doubles it) for the final time...



Dno on 15 January 2010
c0rd said:
Dno said:
jarrod said:

Uh, have you ever played PSO/PSU?  You know MoHun's basically a PSO clone (ie: Diablo clone) right?  And that you can play PSO/PSU offline for free (PSO1&2 even multiplayer offline)?

And my "Ys logic" was comparing sequential same series releases.  FFXIII compared to other mainline entires... well... maybe it could've matched the PS2 entires had it been a Wii game. ;)

yup actually you are right you can compare PSO and monster hunter but NOT ff11 as you need a oline service so that still counts

Also  FF12 is 2.41 mil n japan and im pretty sure ff13 will match those sells and even if it falls short its still VERY close for a system with half the userbase. it will get a best versoin and its still selling 50k (almost) a week. point is you have no proof ff13 would match anything as the highest selling 3rd party game in japan is on ps3 NOT Wii. this gen.

I'm not going to make any claims about a "what if on Wii" scenario, but what does the bolded have to do with anything?




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Majin-Tenshinhan on 15 January 2010
jarrod said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Bruno Muñoz B said:
I think the last third party million seller on a Nintendo console in Japan was Dragon Quest III remake for SFC in 1996.

Unless you're talking about home consoles only, there are quite a few on the DS and the GBA.

You mean GB and DS.  GBA didn't have any 3rd party million sellers in Japan.  MegaMan Battle Network 4 almost managed it though.

Right - My bad.



MaxwellGT2000 on 15 January 2010
KillerMan said:
irstupid said:
KillerMan said:
irstupid said:
KillerMan said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
gustave154 said:
Yes it is a 'flop' when compared to its portable cousins.

You know very wel that it outsold the PS2 - previous console version.

Capcom planned 2 million sales for it. A million in Japan only is a great start.


PS2 games came before the series popularity exploded with portable games. Not fair comparison. Still pretty good sales. Over one million in japan on home console is always great achievement.

funny how depending on how people want to see it flop or not they allow comparisons.  if you want gta china for ds to be a flop compare it to ps2 gta's.  if you want it to be a success then just look at sales.  if you want monster hunter to be a sucess, look at sales, or at previous console versions sales.  if you want it to be a flop, look at handhelds sales. 

 

whatever makes you people happy eh.

I didn't say that it is a flop. I just pointed out that comparing it to previous PS2 versions is not fair. And yes it is true that it is not fair either to compare 2D GTA to 3D GTA. I just wonder why they bothered with chinatown in the first place when they just could have released new 3D stories game to PSP ( and maybe port it later to the Wii) and sell at least 3milj.

its a better comparison to compare it to the console version.  both are on consoles and both are pay for online play.  the handheld version isn't on a console (huh no brainer) and is also a free to play online game.  Totally different, its like comparing ff11's sales to other final fantasies. 

The point is that latest PS2 MH game was released when series was not as popular as it is now. When MH2 was released on PS2 first PSP MH had broke barely a million. MH3 for Wii was released after third MH on PSP which is already over 3.5milj in Japan alone. You are right that comparing MH3 sales to PSP versions is not fair but comparing MH3 to MH2 is not fair either because popularity of series has exploded since PS2 games.

Ahem I made a post about this

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3049047&page=1&postnum=21

Roughly doubling the previous MH console game and the Wii version is on track to double MH2 sales at the very least in Japan... MH2 released after the PSP game started to hit popularity so why couldn't it become a hit too?  PS2 had the install base and the name was selling why couldn't that carry it to at least more than half of the PSP game sales? If the Wii game gets the western promotion like they said it will it could sell 2 million + which would put it at above half Freedom Unite's sales.

 



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Kasz216 on 15 January 2010
XiaoMay said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:

Fantastic! Can't wait to see Western sales for this game once it releases.

A flop, was it? :P

and to say Capcom didnt want any more gamers games on Wii...


Lame

 

But wouldnt it have hit 2M+ on PS3/360 ?

I'd of been surprised if it hit 500K on those consoles.



NeoStar9 on 16 January 2010

How well it does outside of Japan will largely depend on how it's marketed I think. If it gets a good push I can see it doing very well. However if they waste this chance I don't know.



N.Genckel on 16 January 2010
BrandonM said:
N.Genckel said:
Yeah, I also want free online, or I'm not buying.

It's free every where except Japan which is why they wasn't looking for it to sell like the PSP ones:p

Confirmed? If so, yay!



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