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Soulxxx said: EVERYONE who bought a PS2 and enjoyed it enough, will eventually buy a PS3 because it's future proof, like it or not N-fanboys it's the truth. Your Wii simply isn't future proof and if they release a new console in 2 years, means I'm right. Not everyone who owns a GC will buy a Wii cause they see beyond it's Wiimote. Giving you the Wiimote as a standard is sort of what Sony did with blu-ray, isn't it? So didn't they take your choice away? They're forcing you to play with motion sensing ALL THE TIME for the sake of improving Gameplay cause if they release games without the motion sensor, what's the point of it? so what makes you think it's gonna last 2 years?? Sony, on the other hand, isn't forcing you anything.. the BRD is there for casual gamers to get the best games in the industry with 50 gigs of games (It's the future my friends... accept it.) The BRD is also there for HD capabilities. The BRD is also there for HD Movies. The Blu-ray is simply put, perfect. Anyone want to TRY to debunk that? nintendo_fanboy, the name says it all.
this is ridiculous. i said it before, and i'm going to say it over and over again. the wiimote offers a new option to control a game, but if it doesn't fit to a game, you can just use the old one. ssb:b for example will pe controlled with a classic controller, without any motion sensing. same thing with the ds: there are many games that don't use the touchscreen, but this doesn't mean that these are bad games. there are many other arguments that you stated which I dislike, but i'm too tired to counter them all. but about my name: i've chosen it because i just own nintendo consoles, which makes my point of view quite subjective. but despite that, i am still able to argue objective. i was sceptic about the wii when i first heard about it, as i was sceptic about the ds. it was my fear that it won't be interesting enough for hardcore gamers like me, but now, i'm fully satisfied with those consoles. i don't think that the ps3 is beaten yet, we are far away from that point, but there are many signs indicating that sony has a hard time upcoming. at the moment, i think x360 will do better than ps3, but they need great halo-sales for that. and now please tell me if this is fanboyish and if you are not fanboyish at all.



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Soulxxx said: Keep denying, but it's there... and 71 million is still bigger than 47 mil.. even if it's for each console seperately.
You're making it sound like people are zombies and will buy something solely because the previous version was good. The people that do that are called idiots. Consumers are very picky, especially when an item goes for the cost of one month's rent.
People who played the PS2 and got their kicks out of it will surely buy the PS3 when the price drops and some even bought it before... Are you saying that won't happen? You live in a dream world. Are you saying the Wii won't fade when that happens?? You live in a dream world. Are you saying Mario games are hardcore?? You live in a dream world. "Oh look I'm jumping on moving mushrooms and turtles! I'm HARDCORE BABY, YEAH!! SCORE!!"
Haha.. is that what you yell out when you head shot some one with your sniper rifle? "I'M HARDCORE BABY" Mario is more hardcore than any videogame character and will outlive all the Master Chiefs, Sonics, Ratchets, and Solid, Liquid, Naked Snakes. He has made more money than any other videogame character. That's more than hardcore, that's pimp.
Remember that G4TV survey that they had that showed 9 million gamers would pay full price for the PS3 in the US alone! You think they changed their minds??? You think the Elite changed their minds?? More like pushed them even further towards the PS3. You think the Wii changed thier minds? If they have 600$ to shell for a superb console, do you really think they'll spend 250$ for the Wii when they can buy the PS3? Just wait and see people... 9 million. And after the price drops... you know.. you better know.
I think those 9 million are standing out in front of Target every Sunday morning.....to buy a Wii.....still...with no price drop.
EVERYONE who bought a PS2 and enjoyed it enough, will eventually buy a PS3 because it's future proof, like it or not N-fanboys it's the truth. Your Wii simply isn't future proof and if they release a new console in 2 years, means I'm right. Not everyone who owns a GC will buy a Wii cause they see beyond it's Wiimote. Giving you the Wiimote as a standard is sort of what Sony did with blu-ray, isn't it? So didn't they take your choice away? They're forcing you to play with motion sensing ALL THE TIME for the sake of improving Gameplay cause if they release games without the motion sensor, what's the point of it? so what makes you think it's gonna last 2 years?? Sony, on the other hand, isn't forcing you anything.. the BRD is there for casual gamers to get the best games in the industry with 50 gigs of games (It's the future my friends... accept it.) The BRD is also there for HD capabilities. The BRD is also there for HD Movies. The Blu-ray is simply put, perfect. Anyone want to TRY to debunk that?
How the hell is the PS3 future proof? It's not even Now proof. It can't download in the background. It can't continue a download if it is interrupted. Its online presentation stinks. It's not fully backwards compatible. Its SIXAXIS tilt function is obsolete. Note: I plan on purchasing a PS3 when it becomes NOW PROOF and has some games and drops down to $300 and grills my chicken on both sides simultaneously.



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What's said is that after owning a PS1 and PS2 for years I'd never heard of Ratchet and Clank or God of War until coming to online forums a year or so ago. To say they're more popular than Mario, whose music infests cell phone ringtones of all things now, is absurd.



How the hell is the PS3 future proof? It's not even Now proof.



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Soulxxx said: People who played the PS2 and got their kicks out of it will surely buy the PS3 when the price drops and some even bought it before... Are you saying that won't happen? You live in a dream world. Are you saying the Wii won't fade when that happens?? You live in a dream world. Are you saying Mario games are hardcore?? You live in a dream world. "Oh look I'm jumping on moving mushrooms and turtles! I'm HARDCORE BABY, YEAH!! SCORE!!"
Well I am not that afraid to say that it is freaking fun, and hardcore. It is not like it must be 100% realistic to be hardcore.
Soulxxx said: Remember that G4TV survey that they had that showed 9 million gamers would pay full price for the PS3 in the US alone! You think they changed their minds??? You think the Elite changed their minds?? More like pushed them even further towards the PS3. You think the Wii changed thier minds? If they have 600$ to shell for a superb console, do you really think they'll spend 250$ for the Wii when they can buy the PS3? Just wait and see people... 9 million. And after the price drops... you know.. you better know.
Nice to hear: Can these 9 million please stand up and start using their hard earned money. The truth so far is that 9 million isn't buying PS3 in USA alone. I think you miss the point here, so far PS3 isn't delivering compared to PS2. I can also state that I don't think xbox360 is PS3:s biggest oppnent it is Wii, sorry if you don't like Wii but it is actuly selling a lot for the moment.
Soulxxx said: EVERYONE who bought a PS2 and enjoyed it enough, will eventually buy a PS3 because it's future proof, like it or not N-fanboys it's the truth. Your Wii simply isn't future proof and if they release a new console in 2 years, means I'm right. Not everyone who owns a GC will buy a Wii cause they see beyond it's Wiimote. Giving you the Wiimote as a standard is sort of what Sony did with blu-ray, isn't it? So didn't they take your choice away? They're forcing you to play with motion sensing ALL THE TIME for the sake of improving Gameplay cause if they release games without the motion sensor, what's the point of it? so what makes you think it's gonna last 2 years?? Sony, on the other hand, isn't forcing you anything.. the BRD is there for casual gamers to get the best games in the industry with 50 gigs of games (It's the future my friends... accept it.) The BRD is also there for HD capabilities. The BRD is also there for HD Movies. The Blu-ray is simply put, perfect. Anyone want to TRY to debunk that?
Well your are correct in one part here, that is if (and that is big f*cking if) Nintendo release a new consol in two years it wont be future prof. Now the only thing I have heard about Wii:s lifespan is Reggie saying that 5 years mimimum. Now let say that PS3 get the 10 year life spann, and Nintendo release a new one after 5 years, that also last 5 year. Now if Nintendo continue to realese consols that cost 250 USD I would still have paid 100 USD less than a PS3, you might say that well for those 100 USD you get a blu-ray also. Well first it isn't just 100 USD. It is 350 USD and the intresst you gain from the bank. I think the bank rate is 5% in USA for the moment (am I wrong?), well we can go with the swedish numbers instead 3.25% now that means that those 350 USD = 415 USD. Anyway I think you get the point, it doesn't matter if Wii only became 5 years if the next consol will cost less too, (and the 2 years is pure bullshit)
Soulxxx said: robjoh, Mario is hardcore?? If you haven't played Ratchet and Clank... shut up. Mario is a classic, agreed. But the milking should stop... If you like the new games, by all means, have fun... just don't try calling them Hardcore. Standards change... When the first Mario was released it might have been hardcore, but now?
Well I am not that insecure that because I like one game I can't belive that another game isn't hardcore or good.
Soulxxx said: If average joe goes to buy a console and games, you really think he would choose Mario over, say.. Ratchet and Clank?
*Looking on sales number for New Super Mario bros* hmmm (thinking please wait....) (....) (....) yes?
Soulxxx said: And again, Most important thing to remember, hardcore is kind of a subjective term on it's own. So all of these points about games should be considered false and irrelevant. Cause it all boils down to opinions in the end. Maybe StarcraftManiac was trying to list some Mainstream games.. that I would approve, but to say they are better played on the Wii with the Wiimote is a pure joke. Though the 360 is the worst played, I think, for having nothing but rumble. The community here always seems to be the good kind, predicting sales and stuff but they're always running down the PS3 and even after the results come in and show them they were wrong they're gonna say "Wow, I didn't expect that.. but still, it won't sell next month". Shows what you know about the PS3.. now that you know all these good facts about it, will you still continue to predict low sales for it??
if sales for PS3 will become so great that it will overtake Wii WW I will gladly say that I was wrong. So far we haven't seen it, I am looking at numbers availible today, I am looking at another product that aimed to do the same thing as Wii. That system is called DS, and it is selling a lot. Now I already know the answer here, handheld isn't the same thing as consols. For me it is because it is all about sales, and what has Nintendo succeded with in Japan? Well it isn't Zelda driving the sales on Wii it is Wii Sport, just like it was nintendo dogs in EU, brain age in Japan and so on. Nintendo is tapping another part of the market. It might be that after 10 years PS3 will have reached 100+ million sold systems and that Wii have the same amount preferbly from my point of view NOT the same owners. That would mean that we have increased the total gaiming population. We shouldn't look at how many system were sold during the last gen, we shall look at how much can we increase the gaiming population. You (and some of the N-fans) are argumenting from the wrong point of view. Wii isn't there for stealing customers from Sony or Microsoft (of course Nintendo would be pleased if they could) it is there to steal customers from other media forms like movies or books or whatever.



 

 

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Erik Aston said: This thread highlights the absurdity of people saying "PS3 is the only system which will be strong in all 3 major territories." Wii is going to hit 2 million sales in each before PS3 hits 1 million in each.
thanks for turning this thread into a mindless Ninty vs Sony bashing thread - next time you consider posting something that wasn't even asked - just DONT do it
Erik Aston said: How the hell is the PS3 future proof? It's not even Now proof.
I see - you actually wanted it to come to this. Well, must be fun then to gang up on the few Sony fans here , who are to easily lured into this bashing-shit aswell as I may point out.



Damn I wish Sony had a more prominent mascot so I could relate this thread to Mario and "Character X" in a peeing contest. Seriously guys, you can talk about a console without it automatically being an attack on the other console. Also, when someone says something stupid like - Of course the Wii will fail because it has no good/adult/hardcore games, ignore that person. It's not like any thought went into making it, so why should thought go into trying to counter it? As for the question. I'm going to say the Others region. While I do expect sales to drop off quite a bit (like NA and Japan), it just got off to a larger start. Besides, it looks like it might take 2 months for the PS3 to hit 1 mill in Japan.



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Lafiel said: Erik Aston said: This thread highlights the absurdity of people saying "PS3 is the only system which will be strong in all 3 major territories." Wii is going to hit 2 million sales in each before PS3 hits 1 million in each. thanks for turning this thread into a mindless Ninty vs Sony bashing thread - next time you consider posting something that wasn't even asked - just DONT do it
Yeah, I kind of feel bad for reducing this thread to this trash. I should have stopped after that first sentence (which you must admit is a legitimate point) and never mentioned Wii... PS3 isn't performing great in ANY territory, let alone all three.
Erik Aston said: How the hell is the PS3 future proof? It's not even Now proof. I see - you actually wanted it to come to this. Well, must be fun then to gang up on the few Sony fans here , who are to easily lured into this bashing-shit aswell as I may point out.
C'mon, man. That's funny.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

Soulxxx said: Alacrist, the Avatar says it all.
You know I could say the same thing about you, and my avatar means nothing, true I like Nintendo more than the other two but I'm well rounded the only I might bash a system is to make fun of someone who blindly indorses it.



 

  

 

others just passed japan.