Hardcore, Casual ......how do you use these words?

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I know these topics come up from time to time, but I'm a little curious on how people usually use these word.  I don't try to use these words, but it happens by mistake.  I'm gonna try to give several definition with examples.

1) how much you play on average per day.  example: You're a hardcore gamer if you play on average 5 hours per day.

With this Definition I would have to say I'm a Casual Gamer, cause on a typical weekday I play about 2 hours and on weekends I try to play as much as I can, but I usually get sick after 4hours of gameplay and I have to turn the game off.

2) how many times you play a game. This definition depends on what game is hardcore for you. example: if you play a game at least 3 times you're a hardcore player.

With this Definition, it depends.  I'm a Hardcore player when I play Biohazard 4 since I've played that game 8 times, but I'm a Casual player with most RPGs like FF10 or DQ8, since I've only played each of those 1 time

3) how long the game actually is without wasting time. This definition depends on what game is hardcore for you. example: RPGs take 40 hours to finish so therefore it's a hardcore game.

With this Definition, like above it depends.  It's the reverse of the above for me.  I'm a Hardcore player with most RPGs like FF10 or DQ8 since they take at least 40 hours to finish, but I'm a casual player for Biohazard 4 since it takes like 7 hours to finish the game.

This definition can take another example.  IF you DO waste time then you're a casual gamer.  Like my cousin he has played every GTA game since 3, and I haven't seen him do 1 mission, NOT 1.  All he does is just kills people.  Personally a person wanting to finish the game is a more hardcore gamer than a person that just wants to randonly kill people.  Right now I'm not sure if this part should go on the above definition.

4) what difficulty you play the game on.  You're a hardcore player because you play on the hardest difficulty.  This definition depends on what game is hardcore for you.

With this Definition, like above it depends.  For me I'm a Casual player for most games since I usually play on the Normal Difficulty, but I"m a Hardcore gamer for Biohazard 4 since I beat the game in the highest difficulty.

5) SD vs. HD.  You're a hardcore gamer if you play games on a HD console.

With this definition, I'm a contradiction.  I own a Wii which makes me a casual gamer, but I also own a 360 which makes me a hardcore gamer.......that's a contradiction, but I guess some people use it.

6) rating.  example: You're a hardcore player if you play a game that has at least a Teen rating.

With this Definition, I'm a hardcore player since I play Biohazard 4 (rated Mature) but a casual player cause I play new super mario bro Wii-hii :D (rated Everyone).

7) perfection.  You're a hardcore gamer if you get EVERYTHING in a game. This definition depends on what game is hardcore for you.

With this Definition, I'm almost always a casual player.  Getting all Heart tanks in Zelda games, and probably getting all of Lost Odyssey and maybe Blue Dragon's achievments, I'm hardcore at those.  You can argue that I'm not a Lost Odyssey Hardcore gamer cause I might have gotten all the achievements, but I didn't get to max level with everyone.


I can't think of any other definition, let me know and I'll add them if they apply.  Personally I think when people use any of these 2 words, I think they're idiots (sorry for insulting) who are trying to make themselves feel better.  This is the reason why no one knows what you're talking about when you use any of those 2 words, cause they have different meaning to different people.  Mine would be probably 1, 2 or 7, but like I said I don't try to use those words.

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I casually play Call of Duty while I'm a hardcore Mario&Luigi fan.


It depends on how old you are.

What the people in the 26-40 age says are hardcore the younger ones think it's casual and vice versa

If it isn't turnbased it isn't worth playing   (mostly)

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Its just best not to use those words =P

I hardcore play casual games like wii sports. And I casually play hardcore games like COD:MW2

But I digress, I find the best usage of those games is none of all. Every gamer is different, grouping all sorts of games under two rather vague terms serves the gaming community absolutely nothing but to create more lines of which to bicker about.

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To me:

Hardcore gamer = a polite word for gaming nerd; even though it is kind of nerdy in itself. I wouldn't keep a straight face of some homely looking person yelled out to me "I'm a hardcore gamer!" I see the people who identify themselves as "hardcore" anything as being pretentious.
Casual gamer = a gamer who has more things going on in their lives than gaming and dungeons of dragons.

To the more nerdy crowd:
Hardcore gamer = The new cool word for 1337! It is a dignified title.
Casuals = Retards

I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

I've been playing VG for 20 years. I've played a massive range of VG. Heck I play such a big range of games period that I have never met another person to ever have as much range as gaming as I do. Yet my primary VG mediums are the Wii and PC. I'm as hardcore as it get's in some aspect, yet I suspect most "hardcore" gamers who play such a tiny set of game types would consider me casual.

So Hardcore and Casual are pretty meaningless terms or terms that are only used to separate elite and non elite. I'll toss this one out for ya

Everyone(just about) on this site is a casual gamer. Yes even the HD, FPS, gore players. Because Video Gaming on a VG is Mainstream and Mainstream is the domain of the masses. Which we know Masses == NON Elite and NON Elite == Casual. Where as I play games that span niche gaming that are older than VG. Because since we know that Niche/Small/Non Masses == Elite and Elite == Hardcore.

VGCharts == Casual
Me == Hardcore(and the few other older gamers of course)

See check my sig below. I'm validated in what I'm saying because I say so :P

Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

For it to be "Hardcore" I think you need to see penetration, whereas casual (softcore) usually involves more story and acting with implied penetration.

V-r0cK said:
Its just best not to use those words =P

This. However, I'll use them on occasion- though it'll be in quotes, as a mockery of the word itself. For gaming to grow, it needs to not be willing to split itself into these arbitrary categories. A gamer is a gamer, period.


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I use the words Hardcore and Casual about as much as I use the word Demake. Gamers are Gamers and a port is a port. There is no need to make up words to described something that already has a clear and concise definition.

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