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What place will the ps3 end up in at the end of this Gen?

1st 91 12.30%
 
2nd 464 62.70%
 
3rd 185 25.00%
 
Total:740

PS3 will end up second!



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You see this is what i love about VGChartz. People try and pass off opinion as fact while trying to hide their obvious fanboy beliefs.

For example take God of War 3. People are arguing how succesful the game will be. Many saying it is a big franchise and sells consoles etc.. But let's look at the series sales.

God of War - Lifetime sales = 3.2m. First week sales = 172k.

God of War 3 - Lifetime sales = 2.5m. First week sales = 550k.

Those games had almost 120m PS2's to sell to worldwide and the series in almost 8 years has sold 5.7m units.

Now i'm no genius but in terms of game sales that is not so good. The fact the 2nd game sold less then the 1st does not look so good as it means popularit decreased for the series.

God of War 3 will not be a massive system seller based on it's previous records.

To put the sales in some kind of context. Halo ODST is on course to beat BOTH God of War games totals COMBINED, on a system with less consoles in the wild then the PS2 and with only a few months on release.

Now i hate Halo, but it shows how insignificant God of War franchise is when you talk about sales and more importantly talk about franchises.

God of War 3 will have zero effect on ps3 sales just as the last 2 had no effect on the ps2. I have no doubt it will be just another game to add to the list of games which did not sell as much as they probably deserved to ala Killzone 2 etc..



CGI-Quality said:

Lol.....I'm sure many will hold you to that, as you will likely be proven wrong. Wasn't this same thing said of Uncharted 2? Yea, we saw how that turned out.

Refresh my memory, how did Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, R&C Future, Uncharted 1, Resistance 2, LittleBig Planet, Killzone 2 and inFamous "turn out"?

If anything, Uncharted 2 benefitted from the slim relaunch/momentum more than inherently pushing hardware itself.  And given the middling NPD figures, I'd say even that's questionable for America.



i'm in the "2-nd" wagon as well.



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CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

Lol.....I'm sure many will hold you to that, as you will likely be proven wrong. Wasn't this same thing said of Uncharted 2? Yea, we saw how that turned out.

Refresh my memory, how did Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, R&C Future, Uncharted 1, Resistance 2, LittleBig Planet, Killzone 2 and inFamous "turn out"?

If anything, Uncharted 2 benefitted from the slim relaunch/momentum more than inherently pushing hardware itself.  And given the middling NPD figures, I'd say even that's questionable for America.

We can surf through every excuse in the book. Doesn't change the fact that he said God of War III won't move "any" PS3 sales. What those other games were said to do/did is quite irrelevant. The majority of those titles I wasn't here to hear what they were "supposed" to do, but I don't see what relevance that has, at all.

And if Uncharted 2 benefited from the price/Slim/momentum, why wouldn't God of War? God of War is bigger franchise than Uncharted and the first for the series on PS3. Are you saying God of War won't move "any" PS3s?

Well, I don't disagree with "any".  Hell, even Lair probably moved at least one PS3.

I'm saying GOW3 won't move significant numbers of PS3 hardware.  I think the game itself will do okay though, and easily outsell it's predecessor (GOW2).  Just like Uncharted 2 pretty much.

Also, I wasn't here for Uncharted 2's expectations, so you can count that game as equally "irrelevant" I guess. ;)



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jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

Lol.....I'm sure many will hold you to that, as you will likely be proven wrong. Wasn't this same thing said of Uncharted 2? Yea, we saw how that turned out.

Refresh my memory, how did Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, R&C Future, Uncharted 1, Resistance 2, LittleBig Planet, Killzone 2 and inFamous "turn out"?

If anything, Uncharted 2 benefitted from the slim relaunch/momentum more than inherently pushing hardware itself.  And given the middling NPD figures, I'd say even that's questionable for America.

We can surf through every excuse in the book. Doesn't change the fact that he said God of War III won't move "any" PS3 sales. What those other games were said to do/did is quite irrelevant. The majority of those titles I wasn't here to hear what they were "supposed" to do, but I don't see what relevance that has, at all.

And if Uncharted 2 benefited from the price/Slim/momentum, why wouldn't God of War? God of War is bigger franchise than Uncharted and the first for the series on PS3. Are you saying God of War won't move "any" PS3s?

Well, I don't disagree with "any".  Hell, even Lair probably moved at least one PS3.

I'm saying GOW3 won't move significant numbers of PS3 hardware.  I think the game itself will do okay though, and easily outsell it's predecessor (GOW2).  Just like Uncharted 2 pretty much.

Also, I wasn't here for Uncharted 2's expectations, so you can count that game as equally "irrelevant" I guess. ;)

God of War Chains of Olympus would like to say hi!




Sephiroth357 said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

Lol.....I'm sure many will hold you to that, as you will likely be proven wrong. Wasn't this same thing said of Uncharted 2? Yea, we saw how that turned out.

Refresh my memory, how did Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, R&C Future, Uncharted 1, Resistance 2, LittleBig Planet, Killzone 2 and inFamous "turn out"?

If anything, Uncharted 2 benefitted from the slim relaunch/momentum more than inherently pushing hardware itself.  And given the middling NPD figures, I'd say even that's questionable for America.

We can surf through every excuse in the book. Doesn't change the fact that he said God of War III won't move "any" PS3 sales. What those other games were said to do/did is quite irrelevant. The majority of those titles I wasn't here to hear what they were "supposed" to do, but I don't see what relevance that has, at all.

And if Uncharted 2 benefited from the price/Slim/momentum, why wouldn't God of War? God of War is bigger franchise than Uncharted and the first for the series on PS3. Are you saying God of War won't move "any" PS3s?

Well, I don't disagree with "any".  Hell, even Lair probably moved at least one PS3.

I'm saying GOW3 won't move significant numbers of PS3 hardware.  I think the game itself will do okay though, and easily outsell it's predecessor (GOW2).  Just like Uncharted 2 pretty much.

Also, I wasn't here for Uncharted 2's expectations, so you can count that game as equally "irrelevant" I guess. ;)

God of War Chains of Olympus would like to say hi!

What, the worst selling game in the series?  The game who's developer abandoned the platform after finishing it?  That GOW Chains of Olympus?



Only way Sony will end up first is if they buy Nintendo and the Wii suddenly becomes a Sony machine.



jarrod said:
Sephiroth357 said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

Lol.....I'm sure many will hold you to that, as you will likely be proven wrong. Wasn't this same thing said of Uncharted 2? Yea, we saw how that turned out.

Refresh my memory, how did Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, R&C Future, Uncharted 1, Resistance 2, LittleBig Planet, Killzone 2 and inFamous "turn out"?

If anything, Uncharted 2 benefitted from the slim relaunch/momentum more than inherently pushing hardware itself.  And given the middling NPD figures, I'd say even that's questionable for America.

We can surf through every excuse in the book. Doesn't change the fact that he said God of War III won't move "any" PS3 sales. What those other games were said to do/did is quite irrelevant. The majority of those titles I wasn't here to hear what they were "supposed" to do, but I don't see what relevance that has, at all.

And if Uncharted 2 benefited from the price/Slim/momentum, why wouldn't God of War? God of War is bigger franchise than Uncharted and the first for the series on PS3. Are you saying God of War won't move "any" PS3s?

Well, I don't disagree with "any".  Hell, even Lair probably moved at least one PS3.

I'm saying GOW3 won't move significant numbers of PS3 hardware.  I think the game itself will do okay though, and easily outsell it's predecessor (GOW2).  Just like Uncharted 2 pretty much.

Also, I wasn't here for Uncharted 2's expectations, so you can count that game as equally "irrelevant" I guess. ;)

God of War Chains of Olympus would like to say hi!

What, the worst selling game in the series?  The game who's developer abandoned the platform after finishing it?  That GOW Chains of Olympus?

It moved hardware even if it's the worst selling game in the series.




Sephiroth357 said:
jarrod said:
Sephiroth357 said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

Lol.....I'm sure many will hold you to that, as you will likely be proven wrong. Wasn't this same thing said of Uncharted 2? Yea, we saw how that turned out.

Refresh my memory, how did Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, R&C Future, Uncharted 1, Resistance 2, LittleBig Planet, Killzone 2 and inFamous "turn out"?

If anything, Uncharted 2 benefitted from the slim relaunch/momentum more than inherently pushing hardware itself.  And given the middling NPD figures, I'd say even that's questionable for America.

We can surf through every excuse in the book. Doesn't change the fact that he said God of War III won't move "any" PS3 sales. What those other games were said to do/did is quite irrelevant. The majority of those titles I wasn't here to hear what they were "supposed" to do, but I don't see what relevance that has, at all.

And if Uncharted 2 benefited from the price/Slim/momentum, why wouldn't God of War? God of War is bigger franchise than Uncharted and the first for the series on PS3. Are you saying God of War won't move "any" PS3s?

Well, I don't disagree with "any".  Hell, even Lair probably moved at least one PS3.

I'm saying GOW3 won't move significant numbers of PS3 hardware.  I think the game itself will do okay though, and easily outsell it's predecessor (GOW2).  Just like Uncharted 2 pretty much.

Also, I wasn't here for Uncharted 2's expectations, so you can count that game as equally "irrelevant" I guess. ;)

God of War Chains of Olympus would like to say hi!

What, the worst selling game in the series?  The game who's developer abandoned the platform after finishing it?  That GOW Chains of Olympus?

It moved hardware even if it's the worst selling game in the series.

Well, it moved with hardware.  Sony has a habit of "bundling to success". ;)