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Let's be honest with ourselves, Miyamoto could have just said "Fuck online" and people here would have been just as happy with his answer.



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Words Of Wisdom said:

Let's be honest with ourselves, Miyamoto could have just said "Fuck online" and people here would have been just as happy with his answer.

Moreso, as it would have been more definitive



I'm glad they did. some games don't need online play and this is one of them.

Hell the only ones i have heard complaining about the lack of online is just on the internet, none and I mean none of my friends want online play with NSMBW.



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I just want to address the suggestion that Shiggy is changing his story: this is actually the original explanation I heard with regards the ommission of online multiplayer in this game. I not sure if it was on the Nintendo channel interview or some other source but the whole skirt physics and whatever other excuses were proferred came after.

I can understand why people are unhappy with the ommission of online in this game and the 'why not include it' perspective but I still have to ask, with latency issues and no voice chat would it really have worked well?



Mr Khan said:

So now he's saying what he probably should have said from the beginning, that they *could* have done it, but their priority was crafting a local multiplayer experience

 

ONM: Was online multiplayer considered for the game at all? Was it just too difficult to get it to work without any lag?

SM: Well, it's not for purely technological issues that it wasn't included. After all, as you know, we already have online play in Smash Bros., and technologically speaking, I don't think it's creating a high amount of lag. It's just a matter of our priorities when it comes to the creation of a game. We just prioritised on making a multiplayer mode where four players can sit together and play while seeing each other's faces.

We thought that this was more important as far as this New Super Mario Bros. was concerned, but we don't know about the future. Because network environments are getting better and better every day, it may be possible in a future edition to incorporate that type of multiplayer online mode for a real-time action game. But I am just talking about the technological aspect here. What's more important, of course, is if it's going to add to the fun aspect of the game.

This explanation seems like the most appropriate, though that statement about Brawl not generating a lot of lag has to be a poor translation, or he has really never tried it...

Full interview here: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=14117

 

 

So much for Malstrom defending this game and Nintendo wasnt lazy. Like I said in the other thread RED CASE. Those cases are highly collectible, I know 2-d platformers sell systems and its always a hit but not all 2-d platformers are hits. Only the disruptive ones like NSMB Ds, Super mario, SMB3 and NSMB Wii. Even though I like NSMB Wii sequel but Nintendo shouldnt make another 2-d mario after NSMB Wii part 2. The novely will wear out after that.



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E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

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Didn't know this was new info...I remember myamoto pretty much saying the axact thing in interviews before the game came out.



After Xxperiencing this game first hand with my bros....Online isnt and I dont think it would be nowhere nears as entertaining onlin



RolStoppable said:
stof said:
I don't know why they left it out. All I know was that it was a major disappointment that they did.

I see people here saying "local is better than online"... So!? What's that have to do with not putting in the feature? How are people that would like to play with each other online but can't supposed to be reassured by the fact that "well if you could get together to play, it would be a lot better than the online multiplayer that you want but aren't getting?"

Nothing would have to get sacrificed if NSMBWii had online multiplayer. But there would be so much to gain though. It really inexcusable at this point that Nintendo can't even include online in their major flagship titles. Mario, Fit and Sports Resort should all feature online. They'd have nothing to lose, and a lot of game and system sales to gain.

Wrong, stof. Having no online play will sell more systems. This way people have to expose the game to friends. 2D Mario has so damn much selling power that it alone is worth it for people to buy a console for.

Including online multiplayer would have pushed the release of the game back. I know I would be pissed, if that happened for something that I couldn't care less for.

On top of that the sales charts on all home consoles show that local multiplayer is higher valued than online multiplayer. Yes, even on the 360 and PS3, because to my knowledge the Halo and Modern Warfare games do have splitscreen multiplayer. And then people wonder why Killzone 2 didn't sell any better, even though it was such a damn awesome game.

I know that there are people who want all games to have online functionality. I know that there are people who want stories in platformers. I know that there are people who want every game to use the latest technology. But I also know that all those people are a clear minority and as long as this is the case, they shouldn't wonder why they are ignored. And as long as the vast majority of consumers is very happy about the final product, you can't call leaving out completely non-essential features "inexcusable".

The reason MW2 outsells KZ2 has nothing to do with local multiplayer but a lot more to do on the fame of the franchise.

The huge majority of people playing MW2 are playing it online, not locally...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Online multiplayer couldn't do something like this.

I had people over and load NSMBWii.

They were screaming and laughing the entire time while the adults asked me why the kids are screaming. I said it was designed like that.

At one point where they got to the boss, everyone else died except the 5 yrs old nephew. Everyone cheering him on and he actually managed to defeat it. He was jumping around with a huge smile on his face.



RolStoppable said:
Ail said:
RolStoppable said:

Wrong, stof. Having no online play will sell more systems. This way people have to expose the game to friends. 2D Mario has so damn much selling power that it alone is worth it for people to buy a console for.

Including online multiplayer would have pushed the release of the game back. I know I would be pissed, if that happened for something that I couldn't care less for.

On top of that the sales charts on all home consoles show that local multiplayer is higher valued than online multiplayer. Yes, even on the 360 and PS3, because to my knowledge the Halo and Modern Warfare games do have splitscreen multiplayer. And then people wonder why Killzone 2 didn't sell any better, even though it was such a damn awesome game.

I know that there are people who want all games to have online functionality. I know that there are people who want stories in platformers. I know that there are people who want every game to use the latest technology. But I also know that all those people are a clear minority and as long as this is the case, they shouldn't wonder why they are ignored. And as long as the vast majority of consumers is very happy about the final product, you can't call leaving out completely non-essential features "inexcusable".

The reason MW2 outsells KZ2 has nothing to do with local multiplayer but a lot more to do on the fame of the franchise.

The huge majority of people playing MW2 are playing it online, not locally...

Do you have any evidence for that, like the number of people who play offline multiplayer? Well, of course you don't have it.

Maybe it's better to ask why those best selling franchises became such. We know for sure that Halo made its name entirely through local multiplayer and I am pretty certain that the Call of Duty series also really started to take off once they added splitscreen multiplayer to the games. There's no online multiplayer only game that is able to challenge the best selling games on any system.

Maybe you want to mention GTA IV now, but its sales actually shrinked compared to last generation when it was a pure single player game.

EDIT: I forgot to say that nobody would have expected Killzone 2 to outsell MW2, but nonetheless it was supposed to be one of the big games of this year in a popular genre. Yet it took quite some time until it passed the two million mark which is disappointing to say the least.

 

There's already been report of close to 1 million concurrent MW2 online users on the 360...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !