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psrock said:

I am bias anyway when it comes to GOW, they made me a ps2 fan, they pushed the console like no other games, i have been waiting for 3 for ever. I love the series, and Bayonetta could be better, but it's not going to take away my desire from GOW3.

 

Ironically, it was DMC that made me a PS2 fan, so I know where you're coming from. I think we're both lucky that two such great action games are being released very soon, lol. I just wish people didn't try to compare them all the time, and marginalize them. :P



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SHMUPGurus said:
Is the game out? Hmmm... what to buy with 100$: FF:Chrystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers or this?


Do not even joke about it. I love the Crystal Chronicles world, but Crystal Bearers just feel like an unfinished game, it's sad to see a lot of good ideas ending up like this. In the other hand, Bayonetta is on par with God of War, and maybe even above.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Is the game out? Hmmm... what to buy with 100$: FF:Chrystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers or this?


Do not even joke about it. I love the Crystal Chronicles world, but Crystal Bearers just feel like an unfinished game, it's sad to see a lot of good ideas ending up like this. In the other hand, Bayonetta is on par with God of War, and maybe even above.

Again, imo, GoW and Bayonetta are poor comparisons, but needless to say, imo, between the two games: Chrystal Chronicles and Bayonetta, pick up Bayonetta. :P I'ma stop posting in this thread now, give others a chance.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
The game is impressive, and according to IGN, Famitsu, Edge, and most reviewers and players who have actually played it, it is indeed the best action game ever made.

Now, some of the people in this thread haven't been impressed with the demo, did they play the PS3 version, or the 360 version, because IGN says there is a huge difference. Either way, it'll be hard for GoWIII to get much better reviews on IGN, or Edge than this game with 9.5's 9.6's 10/10s, and whatnot.

Also, this is one of the only games ever, where multiple users are making new threads proclaiming how great the game is.

Once again, I would like to point out that some people who are huge GoW fans, might be upset by this, but it's ok. There can be two AAA action games in the same year.

I don't know, GTA4 got some pretty awesome reviews (Oscar worthy story, remember?) and we all know how that turned out.  Personally, I'll wait until the game has actually been released for a week before seeing what everyone thinks about it.

EDIT:  I've played the PS3 demo and it was decent.  It was pretty funn, but I really don't get exactly why the game is being hyped so much.  Maybe the full game is better (lots of awesome bosses maybe?), but the demo didn't do it for me.



perpride said:
psrock said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
psrock said:
Zen, can you name me those VG members who have said this is the best hack and sash game ever, and the list alone would tell you something.

Explain. I wasn't talking about VGChartz members necessarily, I'm talking about people all over the internet, including IGN.com......

Does the game recieving a 9.5 from IGN, 10/10 from edge, 100 from 1up, 9/10 from Eurogamer, 9.6 from IGN AU,, and 40/40 from Famitsu, plus the largest amount of user praise from a upcoming cult game I've seen tell you something?

What about the detractors of the game in this very thread? Do their identities or their sigs tell you something as well?

 

Honestly, I feel sorry for any game that's in the same genre as a PS3 exclusive, they never get the respect they deserve thanks to this bullshit polarization this generation. I wish people would just get over the platform argument once and for all.

I never said the game wasnt good, I actually liked the Demo, but I have played GOW games before, and I just prefer them better. Hopefully, when I borrow Bayonetta, it will impress me more. I'm not buying it when GOW3 is 2 months away.

Take it from someone who has now played both games: Bayonetta does not even come close to God of War. You're doing the right thing holding out for Kratos. I disagree with the OP so much I don't even know where to begin. I actually have Bayonetta for 360 thing too that's the funny. It's a great game, but nowhere near perfect. It ranks as a good new hack and slash, but to me it's no better than Devil May Cry.

Instead of just saying "its better" say why its better....



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bobobologna said:
 

I don't know, GTA4 got some pretty awesome reviews (Oscar worthy story, remember?) and we all know how that turned out.  Personally, I'll wait until the game has actually been released for a week before seeing what everyone thinks about it.

EDIT:  I've played the PS3 demo and it was decent.  It was pretty funn, but I really don't get exactly why the game is being hyped so much.  Maybe the full game is better (lots of awesome bosses maybe?), but the demo didn't do it for me.

Haven't played the PS3 demo, but yes, lots of awesome bosses, and this game is based around gameplay depth which isn't readily apparent in a simple demo, or even a single playthrough.

My opinion about GTAIV is that most people loved it, but like with all big multiplats, its so praised and so big, it formed a vocal anticommunity who assumes that everyone hated it, but they didn't, don't, or ever will, and in the future, when that community dies due to distance from the games praise and release, it will be remembered as a classic, and prehaps the best game in the franchise. That's kinda a tangent though, and it really has nothing to do with your point which is: Reviews mean nothing, only user reviews. Well, we're months away from getting a decent reading on the user reception for any of these games so it's nothing we can deduce right now.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

jesus kung fu magic said:

And ps3 owners....you owe it to yourselves to play this game....ive played the ps3 demo and the 360 version was only a little better but only a little....I really dont see wtf the reviewers are saying because they are both equal in my eyes.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-bayonetta-faceoff

Look at the comparison video taken from the retail versions running at 30% speed. The difference is night and day. The PS3 version is a jerky stuttering mess with a washed out look, blurry textures, and lots of tearing. Even during the parts of the movie when the PS3 version doesn't look all that bad, the 360 version still seems to run at a 3X higher framerate. Reviewers are being way too kind to the PS3 version. It's possibly the worst 360 to PS3 port ever, and Sony should never have allowed the PS3 version to be released in it's current state.

PS3 only owners should boycott Bayonetta. If the PS3 version is successful, there is inevitably going to be more crappy ports like this in the future.

Anyway, I have mixed feelings about the game. I like the stylish presentation & art style, but the fighting looks too much like God of War. I absolutely detest quick time events, and the rest of the game seems like DMC4 played on "Automatic". Not really my cup of tea, but I could be wrong about that last part. I haven't played it yet.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
perpride said:
 

Take it from someone who has now played both games: Bayonetta does not even come close to God of War. You're doing the right thing holding out for Kratos. I disagree with the OP so much I don't even know where to begin. I actually have Bayonetta for 360 thing too that's the funny. It's a great game, but nowhere near perfect. It ranks as a good new hack and slash, but to me it's no better than Devil May Cry.

So.....it's nowhere near as good as God of War, what? 1?

You want to give some reasoning behind your opinion. I mean, maybe you should clear your statements up a little. Is it your user preference that makes you favor God of War? Do you imply that the gameplay in God of War is deeper than that of Bayonetta?

Mostly, I find that users like yourself prefer presentation, character, and story, to in depth japanese style combo systems, and that is the main difference between the two different subgenres. Some often mistake this as a quality difference, but it is actually a difference in user preference, as the developers actually focused on different things when creating the two games.

Thank your lucky stars for DMC though, because without it, GoW wouldn't exist in its current form. Ironically, the creator of DMC also created Bayonetta.

In the end, the game has the pedigree, user reviews, and critical reception to mark it down as a must play for action fans, GoW inferiority complexes not withstanding.

There's no way to objectively compare games. So yes, what I'm saying is my opinnion. Much like every single reviewer who has reviewed Bayonetta is stating their opinnion. There is nothing that makes their opinnion more valid than mine. And yes, as good as Bayonetta is, it's not even as good as God of War 1.

@Jesus Kung Fu - GOW has much better production values. I like the gameplay better as well. It was revolutionary for its time and has pretty much re-defined the way a hack n slash should be. Bayonetta feels exactly the same as DMC to be completely honest. While this isn't a bad thing, it's not the same calibre as GOW.



Totally think the demo was Awesome, and her...

And games like DMC are really fun to play.

 



Hmm I'll stick to God of War, I tried the bayonetta demo and I didn't really like it, there was not really anything new, reminded me of a mix of devil may cry and god of war.