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NJ5 said:
Your post seems like a parody at some points. Is it?

At some points ? It is a parody.

Rol has a clear vision of the Wii and he discussed it in the past months in this site.

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I think Rol is right. I think pretty soon it's just going to be a bunch of grandmas playing Wii Sports and Wii Bingo. The only thing that will even sell remotely well is a game that is designed to show you how to change your depends. Not to mention the flood of crochet titles that have been in development for 2 years now.



Guys, seriously. Look at the bolded words.

There's nothing serious about a post that has "12 HIT COMBO" hidden in it like that. Especially when its validity is already in question.



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Onimusha12 said:
 Suddenly dismissable factors like declining Wii sales
But the sales are WAY up...

 



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Its only the first year for the system, all the systems have their ups and downs. So what if Nintendo does not get the main series or the big games. The wii has its own unique games, and the wii will get better online, it may not be with a Nintendo made game but EA or whoever will make some great online for their games.

I felt the same way with Sony for some parts this year, i had my PS3 at launch, and had 5 games within the first month, i never bought a 6th game until September, now i have 7, and by the end of the year i plan on buying CoD4, uncharted, UT3 if it makes it, the orange box and Motorstorm during the Christmas holidays, since i bet they will drop it down to $30. Thats just off the top of my head.



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jjseth said:
I finally played a Wii last night for the first time.

It was ok, and some of the Wii sports games were fun, but that fun disappeared rather quickly for me. It really does come off as gimmicky after playing that Smooth Moves game as well. Even though there have been times that I have even debated about buying a Wii, I know now that there will be no way I will purchase one. It's great when you have your friends over, but it's just not a game system that I could see myself anxious to leave work and go home and play a game. I can see that with some of my 360 games, and some of my ps3 games (especially those coming out in early 2008).

I think that people are finally seeing that the Wii is a fad and just a gimmick and will lose it's appeal to gamers sooner, rather then later.

So you played two fairly basic collections of mini-games and assumed that's all the Wii was right then and there...

"Oh hey guys! I played the PS3 last night for the first time. I only played LAIR though. It was okay, but I think once people see the PS3 has nothing but a bunch of Dragon Games with bad controls, it'll stop selling all together."

Gee, I sure hope the Wii releases more than just two games in its first year. *rolls eyes*



jjseth said:
I finally played a Wii last night for the first time.

It was ok, and some of the Wii sports games were fun, but that fun disappeared rather quickly for me. It really does come off as gimmicky after playing that Smooth Moves game as well. Even though there have been times that I have even debated about buying a Wii, I know now that there will be no way I will purchase one. It's great when you have your friends over, but it's just not a game system that I could see myself anxious to leave work and go home and play a game. I can see that with some of my 360 games, and some of my ps3 games (especially those coming out in early 2008).

I think that people are finally seeing that the Wii is a fad and just a gimmick and will lose it's appeal to gamers sooner, rather then later.

 So... you're concluding the wii is a fad based on smooth moves and wii sports? Why not try mario strikers, metroid prime, Resident Evil, Fire Emblem, Zack & Wiki, Godfather or you know... SINGLE PLAYER games before saying that the system is no fun alone because its multiplayer games are no fun alone.

 

And to the person complaining that a board in mario party can be beat in an hour... that's a bad thing? Mario Party is designed to be infinitely replayable. I'd PREFER games finishing in an hour so that way, when I play with friends... we don't need to be there ALL day 



Who are you and what have you done to Rol?....but just in case it is the real Rol...and also just in case he isn´t being sarcastic....what matters is if you´re happy with the system,that´s it.



RolStoppable said:

With the sluggish sales of the Wii in Japan since about 12 weeks and the recent disappointment of first week sales for Super Mario Galaxy I am starting to doubt the longevity of the system. The Wii might be a fad after all which wouldn't be that surprising considering the sales of previous Nintendo consoles like the Gamecube, which started well at first too. Although the sales of the GC dropped much quicker.

I think the reason why the Wii could maintain its strong sales longer than the Gamecube is because the Wii had Wii Sports. I am worried what will happen to the western market once people get bored of this game, my guess is that the sales of the Wii will take a serious hit. Most of the Wii's success can be attributed to party games which is evidenced by the sales of Wii Play and Mario Party 8. This can't last forever.

I also lost faith in Nintendo as a developer of top notch first party software after the disapointments their combo of big games (Zelda, Metroid, Mario) has been. Zelda had tacked on controls, Metroid was a streamlined 5 hour game (if you want to see a picture for proof, let's exchange Wii numbers) and not the deep experience I was used to from the Gamecube games, Mario seems to be a totally easy game now (thanks to the casual gamers who can't handle hard games) which can be finished in about 7 hours. I feel betrayed by Nintendo and I am sure that I am not alone, many other longtime Nintendo fans probably feel the same way. Easy games suited for casual gamers is not the way this industry should heading to, I want to play my deep singleplayer games like they used to be. Instead of making games for me, Nintendo develops Wii Fit and other crap which aren't even real games.

Because third parties still don't see the Wii as viable platform we will get mostly minigames from them, which make up already the biggest part of the Wii's library. The strong sales of the Wii early on didn't matter as all the major third party franchises I care for are still not in the works for the Wii, only for 360/PS3. That's not what I would call serious support. I can't really blame them, seeing that only Nintendo games seem to sell well on Nintendo systems, the Wii is no exception.

I think once the 360 and PS3 get another price cut, the Wii is finished, because I don't see Nintendo dropping their price as well, they will continue to overcharge for their outdated hardware which as we all know is only two Gamecubes duct taped together.

Now another reason why I could see the Wii failing is the growing adoption rate of HDTVs. Even the PS3 will be able to easily pass the Wii because thanks to the Cell and Bluray it is futureproof and will last for at least ten years. On top of that the 2008 lineup of the 360 (Fable 2, Halo Wars, Banjo 3) and the PS3 (MGS4, GT5, GTA IV) can't be countered by anything the Wii offers.

Generally the Wii sold well until now because it is cheap. The old technique used in the Wii can't last forever and we will most likely see a Wii HD in 2009, just like Pachter said.

Other problems I have with the Wii are: Games for it so far haven't proven that the Wiimote can be used in more than just gimmicky ways. Nintendo doesn't seem to care for online, most games don't support it and in the ones that do, I have to deal with the annoying friend codes. The virtual console seemed to be a great idea at first, but let's be honest, the games are overpriced. I mean €8 for a Megadrive game, seriously?

 

 

Thoughts?


Welcome to the club.

I did post something like in another thread, but everyone said I was a boy after that. 



This post makes absolutely no new points with the exception of the Mario Galaxy Japan numbers. If you wait until we get global numbers than you can make something on those but otherwise you appear to be looking for an excuse to pile all the tired irrelevent claims into one thread.

I look at it this way. I really enjoy my Wii. I have purchased a variety of games most of which i really liked. The price was affordable enough to get many games. The controls scheme has allowed me new expieriences I have not had in my 20+ years of gaming. Friends and family have taken to it and have generated many good times.

So I will sit back with my Wii and my party games and enjoy them on my 42" flat screen.

If you don't like it then sell it. Maybe the Wii isn't the right system for you. The video game market is no longer a one system choice. I have recommend the DS, Wii, PS3, and 360 to various people depending on their taste. But if Wii Sports was what sold you on the system what exactly are you looking for? It was simple graphics, mini-games, no online, easy, etc..

There is nothing worse than a self-loathing fanboy. So trade you Wii gear in or do like many people do and get 2 systems. Last generation I got a PS2 at launch and loved it for the first year or two. I bought the gamecube when I realized hadn't played the PS2 in 6 months and the cube had what I was looking for. The PS2 was boxed up and it's trade-in was saved for the Wii. Does my change of heart have anything to do with a consoles sucess or general appeal? No. And most of what you are arguing has to do with your personal frustration.

It does not surprise me at all that in a systems first year people have gotten disenfranchised. That's happened with every console I can think of. Nothing new here.



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